Proposal talk:Tag:staff count:nurses

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Source of information for this tag?

How should individual mappers find out the number of nurses at a healthcare facility? If this information is imported from an external source, how can it be kept up-to-date?

Most clinics in the USA do not show a list of nurses who work at the facility. While large hospitals may provide this information to the government, it may not be easy to find.

Here in Indonesia there is often an organizational chart at the clinic which shows the staff who are supposed to work at the facility, but often only 1 or 2 or 0 of these staff members will actually be in the clinic on any given week. Sometimes they have been gone all year --Jeisenbe (talk) 05:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

It looks like the proposal now says that mappers should add the average number of nurses who are there each day, rather than the total number employed. How should mappers get this information? If the number varies between Sunday and Monday, do we average this too? What about if there are more nurses there in the morning than in the afternoon? Please consider the page Verifiability and especially the subsection Statistical properties - things like averages are difficult for mappers to confirm to be correct. A big problem with OSM is when someone imports a bunch of data, but then it can't be confirmed to be true or false after a year or two, so it becomes out of date but mappers are reluctant to delete it. --Jeisenbe (talk) 00:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Total staff or average number each day?

Should this number be the total number of nurses employed at the facility or the total who are working each day?--Jeisenbe (talk) 05:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

The proposal was just updated to say that this is the average number of staff each day. However, as mentioned in the first question above, this may be difficult for mappers to determine. For a 24/7 hospital, is this the average maximum number of staff in the hospital, say at 7am to 8am during the morning shift change, or is it the minimum number of nurses who are there at 3 am (0300)? --Jeisenbe (talk) 23:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

RNs, CNAs, NPs, Midwives?

In some countries there are many types of nurses. For example in the USA there are RNs (Registered Nurses), CNAs (certified nursing assistants), NPs (Nurse Practitioners), Nurse midwives, etc. - and here in Indonesia there are midwives, official nurses, and lower-level nursing care providers.

Which of these categories is to be included in the number of nurses?--Jeisenbe (talk) 05:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)