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How to map

Below are (very draft) guidelines on how to have a coherent tagging and organisation of relations on the 5 routes of the Via Alpina. (Do not hesitate to discuss it in the Discussion page and to improve this page). Originally based on Mayeul commenting this:

A major reference is:

Hierarchy of relations

Currently, the Via Alpina is already split into three levels. This may seem a bit confusing at first, but works very efficient. The reference map knows exactly what to do. At each level, slightly different tags will provide full information.

Top level

- Via Alpina

type = superroute

route = hiking

name = Via Alpina

network = iwn

operator =

description = Hiking route from Trieste to Monaco

symbol = Two curves form an uppercase V in front of an A-shaped gray triangle)

symbol:de = Zwei den Buchstaben "V" formende Bögen vor einem Dreieck in A-Form

symbol:it = Due curve fanno una V maiusculo di fronte ad un triangolo grigio a forma di A

symbol:fr = Deux courbes font un V majuscule devant un triangle gris en forme de A

Signpost via alpina cropped.jpg

osmc:symbol = black:red:white_triangle:V:blue

Second level

 - Via Alpina Red
 - Via Alpina Blue
 - Via Alpina Purple
 - Via Alpina Yellow
 - Via Alpina Green

type = superroute

route = hiking

name = Via Alpina Red

name:de = Via Alpina Rot

name:fr = Via Alpina Rouge

name:it = Via Alpina Rosso

network = iwn

operator =

description = Stages R1 - R161, Trieste - Monaco

symbol = Two curves form an uppercase V in front of an A-shaped gray triangle


osmc:symbol = black:red:white_triangle:V:blue

Third level

   - Via Alpina Red R161 
   - Via Alpina Blue D1 
   - Via Alpina Purple A1
   - Via Alpina Yellow B1
   - Via Alpina Green C1
   - etc.

type = route

route = hiking

name = Via Alpina Red R161

operator =

network = iwn

description = Peillon - Monaco - Place du Palais


ref = VA-R161

symbol = Two curves form an uppercase V in front of an A-shaped gray triangle


osmc:symbol = black:red:white_triangle:V:blue

Fourth level

This is used for two reasons. One is that a hiking route can be used for several marked footpaths. For instance both Via Alpina and Alta Via dei Monti Liguri. The second reason is to add alternative routes to a stage, for instance access path to hut, alternative in bad weather, etc.

     - (xxxxxx) 
       This means that the relation has no name. Instead, put a note for mappers: Part of Via Alpina Red R161

type = route

route = hiking

note = Part of Via Alpina Red R161

operator =

network = iwn

description = Alternative ... - ...

--Traildino 19:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


osmc:symbol = black:red:white_triangle:V:blue


ref=VA-R157 As seen at: Beware, BLUE is "D", yellow is "B"... Purple is "A" so I think the following is wrong: (Wrong letter should be fixed now Abi12563 21.12.2012)

I'm not 100% satisfied with this, but the fact is that there is no widely common known ref. system for the VA. While if you say "GR20" to any casual hiker in France, they know it's in Corsica (there was even a large fiction movie about it). So we somehow need to choose ourselves what is the best, and it is how the Via ALpina organisation calls it. Mayeul 17:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

hyperlink website= In addition to being useful to the users, whatever the language code ("en") we use, this gives us an "id" which may be useful for systematic/automatic editing in the future. Mayeul 17:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

note and description

On this: instead of note=Part of Via Alpina Itinéraire Rouge I would stick to a single language in the "note". Mayeul 17:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC) You might want to use: "description" for that instead (which is meant for users, while "note" is for fellow mapers) But the relation already says it. Mayeul 17:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Description is useful for levels 1 - 3. Note is useful for level 4, because this level has no name. --Traildino 19:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


Not sure the words "Via Alpina" should be repeated at all levels (all relations/ways); probably it is somehow useful, it would be good to know exactly when. Mayeul 17:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


In addition to the letter the Via Alpina organisation wrote ( they assure us via email that the tagging proposal is okay: "I [N. Morelle, Via Alpina International Co-ordinator] had a look at the link below [link to this page] and I can’t see any problem with it. The hierarchy seems logical to me and yes of course the OSM community is allowed to use the stage reference numbers (R161, A23 etc.) as well as the “Via Alpina” name. No problem either in using the name of the start and end locations, which is purely factual, we claim no ownership on that!". (--Traildino 22:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC))

To do list

  • chair mapper avec Bing + PCN

data collecting method

Nous voulons cartographier avec photo+GPS+Bing.

Pour les photos nous voulons aussi l'orientation 3D (pan, tilt, roll), et le GPS avec toutes les informations permettant d'estimer nous-même la précision (en enregistrant des extraits du flux NMEA). Idéalement avec OS GNU/Linux. (note: Anroid n'est pas "une distrib GNU/Linux"; pourraît être un second choix).

L'appareil doit aussi servir de GPSr d'orientation.

Pour l'instant 2 candidats: - Openmoko GTA04 (e.g. Debian / LXDE) avec option camera. (818 euros!). Cf. - Nokia N900

Quelqu'un a réussi à enregistrer des extraits du flux NMEA et les info d'orientation 3D des capteurs sur ces appareils ou similaires?

Cartographie le soir sur EEEPC linux (env. 300 euros).

Upload au pire tous les 2 ou 3 jours (quand il y aura du réseau. Problème de durée de session? de conflits?). Besoin d'un forfait, sur 3 pays. QUel forfait le plus adapté?

Instead of buying an expensive GPS camera, use the camera of your mobile, even if it has no GPS. Use it together with your GPS receiver. Synchronise the clock of your mobile with the clock of your GPS receiver. The time you take a picture is saved in the exif information of the jpeg. In JOSM, you can import your pictures and use the exact time in the exif to link it with the track of your GPS receiver. This may work even better than using a camera with built in GPS. Drawback is that you won't save information about the azimuth of your picture. A simple solution is to apply your own convention: take a landscape picture for things in front of you, and take a portrait picture when looking backwards. --Traildino 19:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)