Talk:WikiProject Malta
Roadnames in Malta
I do not live in Malta but my Parents do so I'm there from time to time and might do some mapping when I'm there. My Questions is concerning Roadnames (or names on places etc.). I konw that most roads have an english name and one Maltese name. Are these both offical names? Do all roads have then? And I understand that I can put them both in name:mt resp. name:en. But what name should be in "name="? --Thod 07:58, 4 June 2012 (BST)
- "name=" should be Maltese, so name:mt is useless. Other names (like english) can be inserted with "name:en=". --Arlas (talk) 13:22, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed with the above. Official street names are in Maltese, so name:mt is redundant. As for official sources, we can refer to the Street Naming Committee of the Electoral Office (https://electoral.gov.mt/streetnaming2025-en) and/or the Planning Authority's MapServer (https://pamapserver.pa.org.mt/), amongst other sources. --SamuelZammit (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2025 (CEST)
Gozo Towns/Villages survey December 2008
June 2025: Reproducing this table from a previous version of the article for archival purposes.
| Place | Mapping status | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Marsalforn | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Munxar | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Nadur | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Sannat | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Victoria | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike, added street names and POIs. Mapped the historic castle in more details. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Xaghra | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike, added street names and POIs. Missing street names, needs further surveying. |
| Xewkija | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike, added street names and POIs. |
| Xlendi | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike, added street names and POIs. Added a couple of tracks and footways around Xlendi. Gubaer 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
| Żebbuġ | Streets, street names and POIs mapped | 2008/12: Surveyed the village by bike, added street names and POIs. |
Populated place names/areas/units within the local councils
Greetings. I'm curious. Within each and every of the 68 local councils (or in Maltese: kunsilli lokali) that exist within the nation of Malta, do they have smaller sub-local or local level areas/units that can resemble as "populated places" (or in Maltese: "postijiet popolati"), like townlets or villages or localities or settlements or neighbourhoods or communities or quartiers or hamlets or "zones", etc.
Looking forward to hearing from anyone in regard to this matter. Thanks in advance.
P.S.: I believe that a local council functions like a "local government area" [LGA] or "local administrative unit" [LAU] (i.e.: a municipality or a commune) that contains a downtown area (or a city/town centre), alongside a few other towns and/or villages or similar place name areas/units within the territorial borders/boundaries of that local government area or local administrative unit. Jlog3000 (talk) 16:01, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your question. The local councils correspond to the LAU2 level of the European Union NUTS classification and are officially defined. From what I've seen, the official boundaries seem to be correctly mapped on OSM.
- Given the nature of Malta (it is a very small and urbanised country that can be compared to a medium-sized city), many of the historical 'villages' have by now formed conurbations, so this distinction does not really exist except perhaps in more rural areas. However, some areas still have names (of neighbourhoods/suburbs) in common use.
- As an example, the local council of Rabat, Malta (7510565
7510565) entirely contains the 'village' of Baħrija (12738319122
12738319122) and small hamlets as Landrijiet (1421803481
1421803481). Often, the borders of these are not officially/exactly defined. In practice, it would make sense to map these smaller areas as place=hamlet or place=village, and it would make sense to map neighbourhoods/suburbs within cities as place=neighbourhood, place=locality, place=quarter, etc. (example: 3504369488
3504369488).
- As an aside, please note that local councils effectively act as 'city councils', where a total of between 5 and 15 councillors (depending on the population of the locality) are elected to manage local issues. Some of the larger hamlets/villages used to have separate semi-autonomous 'administrative committees' (see this Wikipedia article), but the legislation for this was repealed in 2019. SamuelZammit (talk) 10:22, 13 June 2025 (CET)
- Greetings @SamuelZammit. Pardon me for the delayed response. But yeah, I kinda get most of what you have said. But with that being said, does each local council actually contain smaller sub-local areas, even if they are unofficial? Jlog3000 (talk) 19:13, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, there are names in common use (even if no longer 'official'). In OSM, they are mapped as place=hamlet, place=neighbourhood, or place=village, etc. The official smallest subdivisions are the 68 local councils, which are mapped as relations with admin_level=8.
- Uninhabited/rural areas with place names (usually relating to geographical/natural features) are often populated with place=locality (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12748079996). Sources for this include local knowledge and the Government's historical survey maps. SamuelZammit (talk) 08:12, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Where may I find such a list (from a perspective of OSM, and aside from OSM)? I assume that the ones under "place=locality" or "place=hamlet" or "place=neighbourhood" or "place=hamlet" etc. are the ones representing a level beneath the "admin_level=8" one, correct? Jlog3000 (talk) 08:26, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, they are beneath admin_level=8 for sure.
- Regarding the localities, here is the most comprehensive list I could find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_localities_in_Malta. Most of these would be in common use, but for sure I haven't heard of all of these. I am personally more familiar with the northern half of Malta island (the larger one).
- As for official government sources, you can find data here (but not sure about the copyright/licence status of these):
- Planning Authority MapServer: https://pamapserver.pa.org.mt/ (includes 1968 survey sheet under the 'basemaps' menu)
- Malta GeoHub: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/4d0a5da4f6f24e71808f19825d3ef47f/ (includes older survey sheets under the 'mapping and imagery' menu).
- SamuelZammit (talk) 08:34, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Where may I find such a list (from a perspective of OSM, and aside from OSM)? I assume that the ones under "place=locality" or "place=hamlet" or "place=neighbourhood" or "place=hamlet" etc. are the ones representing a level beneath the "admin_level=8" one, correct? Jlog3000 (talk) 08:26, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- On the link from the Wikipedia page, I have checked that one. However, when I tried to compare that with any government related source, like as if it's invalid. I even tried contacting to each local council, but to no avail. Jlog3000 (talk) 09:39, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- In my experience, the 1968 survey map on the Planning Authority MapServer (link 1 above) contains most of the locality names (especially in rural areas). For the names in common use, there are usually road signs with the area names on them. For example, on page 2 of this document (https://cbdmalta.org/assets/docs/Zone%20update%20%20Newsletter%2030th%20-September-2023.pdf) the names "Valletta", "San Ġiljan", "Ħ'Attard" etc. are local councils (admin_level=8) but "L-Imrieħel", "Ta' Qali", etc. are smaller subdivisions/areas.
- Right now contacting the local councils probably won't get you a response - it's election season in Malta right now. And I'm not sure if they would reply at all to these kinds of queries in general.
- Last month I tried myself contacting the government's Address Management Unit (https://address.gov.mt/) to see if they were willing to provide building/address data but didn't receive a reply either. SamuelZammit (talk) 10:09, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- On the link from the Wikipedia page, I have checked that one. However, when I tried to compare that with any government related source, like as if it's invalid. I even tried contacting to each local council, but to no avail. Jlog3000 (talk) 09:39, 26 May 2026 (UTC)