Proposed features/orchard

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orchard
Status: Approved (active)
Proposed by: FrViPofm
Tagging: landuse=orchard
Applies to: Node Area
Definition: intentional planting of trees or shrubs maintained for food production
Rendered as: green dots on brown background Orchard.png
Drafted on: 2009/09/11
RFC start: 2009/09/25
Vote start: 2009/10/14
Vote end: 2009/10/28

Proposal

This section will be removed after the approval.

This value is proposed for any surface used for culture of any kind of trees. The production can be a fruit (apple, olive, lemon, hazelnuts, chestnuts, etc....), wood or bark (wicker, cork, yew (used for producing paclitaxel) but not by destruction of the tree as it is in a forest), sap or resin (latex[1]), other (truffle)...

The discussion on the proposed feature Plantage[2] showed the need of such a tag, but the word plantage appeared wrong. The word orchard seems more adequate and in general better.

The value is generic enough to be interpreted by renderers even if they don't implement the second level tag trees=*. A more accurate renderer could render differently the different values of the trees tag.

Use

General Use

An orchard is an intentional planting of trees or shrubs maintained for food production. Orchards comprise fruit or nut-producing trees grown for commercial production. [3]

The tag can also apply to a fruit garden, generally synonymous with an orchard, although it is set on a smaller non-commercial scale and may emphasize berry shrubs in preference to fruit trees."

The tag cannot be used for a garden producing vegetables under some fruit trees when the vegetable production is the main use and the trees are too scarce.

The soil can be covered with grass or be naked, but generally worked yearly. The production is gathered.

Bellow is a list of some possible species [4]

Tropical areas
  • Banana plant
  • Cacao
  • Coconut palm
  • Coffea
  • Durian
  • Guava
  • Mango tree
  • Papaya
  • Rambutan
  • Tea plant
Subtropical areas
  • Avocado
  • Custard apple
  • Date Palm
  • Lemon
  • Lychee
  • Mandarin
  • Olive (olive grove)
  • Orange
  • Macadamia
Temperate areas
  • Almond tree
  • Apple trees.png Apple tree
  • Apricots tree
  • Bayberry
  • Blackberry
  • Blueberry
  • Cherry trees.png Cherry tree
  • Chestnut tree
  • Cranberry
  • Ginkgo
  • Governor's plum
  • Hazelnut trees.png Hazel
  • Peach
  • Pear tree
  • Pecan
  • Walnut
  • Persimmon tree
  • Plum tree
  • Raspberry
  • Sand pear

Special Uses

As exceptions, some tree plantations can be tagged as orchard in OSM, although they don't produce fruit nor nut : tree plantations of oaks for truffles or cork are examples of such specific uses.

The case of willow plantation for wicker is not fixed. We need more information on cultivation practice. Cultural practices are closed the previous cases. The question is about the gather. Is the whole plant cut or only part (branches) ?

The use of the second level tag produce=* is recommended.

Special species list
  • Oak for truffles
  • Oak for cork

Rejected Uses

  • A Tree nursery could not be mapped using this tag..

Tagging

fruit is a simple tag for the species produced within this orchard. This is a private suggestion by me, added on Oct 25, and not covered by the voting below, but it sounds logical and I wish that some renderers include it into their mapping procedure. --FK270673 14:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
As we are mapping what is on the ground, the value should be the name of the trees and not of the production. E.g.
In addition of the trees tag, when the name of the tree is not enough :

Rendering

Main Pattern

  • A renderer could render the area with green dots on brown background. Orchard.png

Specific Patterns

Four renderings of orchards with an alternative rendering of the vineyard Orchard.png     Orchard with unkwnown trees Apple trees.png     Apple trees Cherry trees.png     Cherry trees Hazelnut trees.png     Hazels Vineyard.png     vineyard
  • More accurate renderers could render, according to what they implement, green symbols on brown background. E.g.
    • Apple trees Apple trees.png
    • Cherry trees Cherry trees.png
    • Hazels Hazelnut trees.png

Suggestions for creating a new pattern

  • All the patterns are 24x24 px
  • The background color is of landuse=field : #E6DDD0
  • The leaves color is of landuse=forest : #B1CB9D
  • The fruit shape is about 9 px diameter centered : once at 6px,6px, once at 18px, 18px (top-left : 0px, 0px)

Notes

Opinion poll

started on 2009-10-14.

Add {{poll|yes}} or {{poll|no}} to express your opinion about the proposal.

  • I like this proposal. FrViPofm 07:19, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. EdLoach 07:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. quicky 07:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. monsieur a 08:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Rodolphe 08:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Gilles tagada 08:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. EtienneChove 08:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Kimaidou 08:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Tenshu 08:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Vmeurisse 08:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Ryra6453 08:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Anolnx 08:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Damouns 08:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Extremecarver 08:56, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Leblatt 09:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Steven Le Roux 12:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. sletuffe 10:19, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Do not listen to anarchists, let people write what they want !! sletuffe 21:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Mat 10:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Skywave 11:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Esperanza 11:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Emmanuel Pacaud 14:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal.
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Cartinus 12:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't change signed text !!!!!!!! --Cartinus 12:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --krysst 14:19, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --RatZillaS 12:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Nimnael 20:35, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Lyx 20:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Nop 21:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Yannig 21:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. PSHunter 00:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Gerhard 10:32, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Balooval10:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Bonius
  • I like this proposal. --Gregoryw 12:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --David.earl 12:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Snusmumriken 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. Xinfe 12:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Mikh43 12:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC) - but see my comment re definition on the discussion page.
  • I like this proposal. Tbj 12:56, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Dieterdreist 13:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Pecisk 13:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Mvrban 18:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. Don't vote, just map and document how you mapped. I hope that nobody is waiting to map orchards for the conclusion of this vote! -- RussNelson 14:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
    • It's not a vote, it's an opinion poll. And sorry for you if many contributors prefer to search a consensus before tagging, not after. And if you don't like the method, it's not a reason to reject the proposal. Just ignore it. -- Pieren 15:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. -- Jamicu 15:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC) - but I agree with comments by user Mikh43 on discussion page

  • I like this proposal. We need orchards, but we should use short tags like orchard=apple rather than long tags. -- FK270673 18:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. — ChJ 20:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Vyskocil 6:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Gnonthgol 07:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. Ulrich 17:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Gilles lamiral 23:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. However, I feel that we should just have one tag (landuse=orchard) and show all orchards the same. --Kevin Steinhardt 11:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
    • Why losing information when we get it ? The rendering is free to not render. FrViPofm 19:38, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
    • And other sub-tags are optional. --Pieren 22:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
    • Then let's go for it. :D --Kevin Steinhardt 19:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. --Comsomol 11:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I don't like this proposal. though I like the tag itself, I disagree with some of the proposed values. Many of the mentioned berries never grow in orchards (blueberry, blackberry, etc), and some values can be joined together like various types of apples, plums or pears. This is not a rejection of the landuse=orchard tag, but a dismissal of many of the values of the additional tags. --Skippern 23:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- stevea 5:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I like this proposal. -- Srmixter 1:09, 24 October 2009 - yes, but leave off "trees" ie just trees=apple, not trees=apple_trees, and only use for trees not for berries, maybe use something like plants=strawberries or something similiar
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. because I oppose the required plural attribute ("apple_trees"). I would vote yes if a singular attribute ("tree=apple") was allowed. Let's start a second proposal in order to discuss whether singular ("apple") or plural ("apples") is allowed. Once again: I oppose long attributes like "trees=apple_trees". --FK270673 14:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. --VonLausitzOelpen 15:56, 26 October 2009 (UTC) let's have a more common attribute for the planting to tag other planting than trees too, e.g., tea or hops

closed on 2009-10-29

Result

  • 55 people have expressed an opinion about this proposal:
    • 51 people like or approve this proposal,
    • 4 people don't like or oppose this proposal.
  • The quorum (8 unanimous approval votes or 15 total votes with a majority approval) has been reached and highly exceeded. Thanks to all those who have expressed they opinion.
  • The pool has got 92 % of votes in favour of this proposal : it can realy been considered as accepted.

I would just add that the list of plants is not closed. Maybee the tea[6] could be added for it is a plant * growing like a tree in nature, * remaining several years on the place. Maybe hops could take place in the list though it is not a tree but herbaceous plant [7] like banana plant

References

  1. See Wikipedia:Para rubber tree
  2. See Talk:Proposed features/plantage
  3. based on en.wikipedia orchard
  4. Sources : en.wikipedia Orchard, fr.wikipedia Verger
  5. e.g. Maple for syrup in Canada, Maritime Pine for turpentine in France
  6. See Wikipedia:Camellia_sinensis
  7. See Wikipedia:Humulus