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"(Note: may be considered normal or yes pending discussion.)"

Where is this discussion? URL? Surely not "normal" as usually in France or Germany, lowered is rather the norm at crossings and the page seems to be related to crossings (as nodes are referred in the first sentences).

Yes is descriptive. Normal is not. Normal compared to what?

Words are meaningless. Use kerb hight in SI unit


every wheelchair user knows the kerb hight he/she can pass for every used wheelchair. In Centimeters for 99% of the countries on this planet. 0 % of wheelchair users know the table on this page. Stop inventing words for hights. Use centimeters. Allow routing algorithms for wheelchair users to accept user entries in cm and route exactly the needed way.

A good cm estimation is better than a bad word. --Lulu-Ann (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Kerb:raised at bus stops "implies wheelchair=no"?

I am a bit confused. The paragraph "raised" states that it can be added to bus stops, but it also states, that it implies wheelchair=no. On the other hand Key:wheelchair#Bus_stop states "wheelchair=yes (if there is a high level kerb [...])"... what is correct now? I don't think that you get around tagging the actual height of the kerb for public transport. --Raffael (talk) 20:56, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Found a reference: Talk:Tag:highway=bus_stop#kerb.3Draised

I think you're confusing kerb=raised preventing a wheelchair crossing the road at that point, and kerb=raised at a bus stop to aid access to the buses (though as the reference above states, it doesn't say anything about whether accessible buses stop at that stop, so can't really be taken to imply wheelchair=yes or no when used on a bus stop for bus accessibility - just that it wouldn't be possible to cross the road there. Re-reading the page I suspect kerb=raised implies wheelchair=no when used on highway ways that aren't bus stop nodes - read the second paragraph on the page for the type of highway ways that I suspect are the "general method" mentioned lower down, when it mentions bus stop as an exception before then going on about what is implied for the general method. -- EdLoach (talk) 07:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it needs a bit of rewording for clarification. If a company/municipality raises the kerb at a bus stop it's to help people to get into and out buses. It doesn't not mean that all buses at this stop will be accessible but the purpose being to make the transport route(s) accessible it implies that the platform is intended to be accessible (and therefore the road can't be crossed). --Nospam2005 (talk) 09:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Lowered flush kerb

Is "lowered" intended to mean lower than the rest of the kerb, or does it mean lower than a normal kerb (low enough to be traversed using wheelchairs)? If there's a dip at a crosswalk (perhaps just a slight dip) and the kerb is flush with the pavement there, should it be marked kerb=lowered or kerb=flush? Germyb (talk) 22:59, 8 September 2017 (UTC)