Talk:Humanitarian OSM Team/philippines ondoy

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The contents of this wiki page seem to be well out of date. Can someone update it with the current requirements?

Comment on existing webmaps about the disaster

The webmaps I've seen so far uses mostly googlemaps which is very good since google's servers can scale-up very well for high traffic. However, features are very limited at the moment. For one, the road data cannot be downloaded so that response teams can easily integrate it to current GIS implementations. OSM data can be downloaded as shapefile from several providers cloudmade and geofabrik. Nevertheless, I already initiated contact with http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home on how we can coordinate efforts. I would like to point out that they are doing an excellent job at the moment. Maning 10:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

email discussion http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home group
maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com> 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM
@ Erika, thanks!
@ franklinnaval and the typhoonondoy group

Your group's effort is highly commendable. It would be best if we can
collaborate,  we will setup the map in the next few hours.
A draft workplan is here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy

maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com> 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM

One question is it possible to "close" a placemarl?  For example, once
the person missing was found, the placemark will be removed from map.

To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>
Hi Maning,
I don't see the point of using yet another map on another system that might not even handle the load (we've hit already 300K+ hits 
on one map alone).  I know that Google's system is able to handle the load (I used to work on environments in the backend system 
infrastructure.)

Can we just add you guys to the current disaster map?  Or, if you can, add more layers using Google's My Maps?
Franklin

maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com> 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:52 PM
To: Franklin Naval 
OK, I understand.
I would love to help out.  I am currently looking for KML maps we can
add like flood vectors etc. might be useful if we can add them on your
map as well.  I will send them to you if you find it useful.

One request if possible, it would be best to update some of the
placemarks if the situation has improve in these areas.  I. e.
reported flooding, in some areas, floods have receded; found persons;
etc.

Your map is doing an excellent job by the way.
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Franklin Naval  	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:00 PM
To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>
Cc: Dan Cedric Delima 
Hi Maning - I'm going to connect you with Dan who is leading the development of a disaster tool.
He can give you more information on the tool and where the code lives on Google Project Hosting.

Definitely would want your help in feedback, filing issues, and development.

Regards,

-Franklin
Sent from Manila, Man, Philippines

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maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com> 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:15 PM
To: Franklin Naval 
Thanks franklin.  I would love to help.  I don't see any problem with
continuing both efforts as well.

Your map is very good in soliciting info about current situation on
the ground.  In the long term, we plan to use openstreetmap to support
rebuilding, recovery efforts.  This is because LGU's, utility workers
and others who will be involved in rebuilding necessary infrastructure
can download openstreetmap data as GIS data (unlike google maps, I
hope they do, btw).

Let me know more how can I help.  I was a victim of this disaster as
well (thankfully, the family was OK at the moment).  So I'm devoting
my time to help others.

cheers,

Franklin Naval 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM
To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>

-Franklin
Sent from Manila, Man, Philippines


This is a good idea.  I haven't seen openstreetmap so I cannot comment on it's capabilities.

Dan Cedric Delima 	Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:32 PM
To: Franklin Naval 
Cc: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>
I definitely agree with Franklin.
With this sudden surge of viewers/reporters/commenters, I wouldn't count on non-tested heavy load technologies.

Heatmaps coming up tonight!

Within tile usage policy

Is this planned webmap within the tile usage policy? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy Maning 10:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

If it isn't then it's very trivial to switch to CloudMade tiles. --seav 12:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)