Proposal talk:Kitchen hours

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Reuse opening_hours

My first thought was: why not reuse opening_hours? I'm thinking of

 opening_hours:kitchen=<opening hours>

In the future this could be extended to all kinds of "opening_hours" and current editors will display those one after another. --Imagic 10:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I like your idea. Does anyone have objections to change the proposal accordingly? --Head 10:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

opening_hours:food perhaps? It relates two OSM tags that already exist rather than introducing a third. SomeoneElse 10:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

But then it would have to be opening_hours:warm_food in many cases. Or something like opening_hours:dinner, opening_hours:lunch etc. There are restaurants that still sell chips, nachos etc. after closing the kitchen. --Head 11:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I like this syntax, but I'm not sure, what is the best subtag: (:kitchen, :warm_food, :dinner or :lunch), maybe "warm_food"?! -- MasiMaster 16:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I prefer kitchen, because the kitchen is open, not the food ;-) If necessary, we can add more details, e.g.
 service_times:kitchen=xxx       (Kitchen is open)
 service_times:kitchen:warm=xxx  (Kitchen is open for warm food only)
 service_times:kitchen:cold=xxx  (Kitchen is open for cold food only)
 services_time:kitchen:<cuisine code>=xxx  (Only for the specified cuisine=*)
--Imagic 09:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Reuse service_times

If reusing a tag I wouldn't use opening_hours=* but service_times=*. Anyway, it doesn't make things easier nor tags shorter to introduce namespaces here, so kitchen_hours=* is equally fine to me. --Dieterdreist 11:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

service_times=* makes definitively more sense. I think, that service_times:kitchen is better than a new key, though.
Keep in mind that service_times=* is not very established, so far it is only used for a few hundred churches and a handful of other amenities. --Head 23:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Correct, but it is an approved key and in my opinion it fits more than opening_hours. So let's provide this key with some live ;-) --Imagic 07:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Tagging when the kitchen is open the entire time

The proposal currently states "If the kitchen is open during the entire opening hours, you can omit the kitchen_hours tag." This creates a problem in that there is then no way to distinguish between an outlet whose kitchen hours haven't been surveyed / entered yet, and one whose kitchen has been verified to be open the whole time. To make this distinction, I think that the kitchen_hours either need to be included explicitly, or a special value such as kitchen_hours=* or kitchen_hours=all or kitchen_hours=opening_hours be used.

-- Rjw62 12:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

What would someone do if no kitchen hour tag is present? One would (have to) assume, that the kitchen hours are identical to the opening hours. Exactly what the proposal suggests. So I guess, that this is a compromise, we could live with. --Imagic 12:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)