Proposal talk:Green alley

service=green_alley

why not "service=green_alley" instead of "service=alley" + "alley=green_alley" ? --Pieren (talk) 17:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Fundamentally, a green alley is not much different than a regular alley. They represent the same thing in the real world; as such, shouldn't they be represented by the same tags? The fact that an alley is a green alley is then an additional attribute that is represented by a new tag. --Zethradon (talk) 01:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

service:alley=green

How about "service:alley=green" or "certification=City of Montreal Green Alley". The green alley program is likely to be very different in other cities, but the concept is the same. "certification=City of San Francisco Pridefull Alley" "certification=City of New York Crime Prevention Alley" "certification=City of Chicago Green Alley"? Brycenesbitt (talk) 06:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I like this idea of "certification". If more than one certification applies, is it possible to have multiple tags with the same key? --Zethradon (talk) 19:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

service=alley + alley=whatever

This is my suggestion. No new tag is needed to cover this. Compatibily is so granted! green_alley seams to be a special local feature (in Montreal). --EinKonstanzer (talk) 12:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

not a distinctive road type

This looks more like a state-funded project to make the cities greener, rather than a distinctive road type. We have similar projects in Austria too ("urban gardening").

Nowadays, you will hardly find an urban road without vegetion around it if space permits it. Primary roads are often tree-lined, for example.

Apart from that, roads get greener over the years all by themselves if that is not prevented. Your first 2 photos look like tracktype=grade3, which usually develops from a tracktype=grade2 and later turns into grade4 and then grade5 before shrubs and trees finally make the road impassable. --Fkv (talk) 23:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Your comment reflect the incomplete state of the description of a green alley and I will gladly amend that. A green alley is significantly distinct from a road with some vegetation or tree-lined (all the streets here are tree-lined). A green alley is more akin to a public place: most are art spaces, sometimes furnished with park bench, public bookcases, playgrounds for kids, sometimes are places for urban gardening and are community driven (even if supported and officialized by cities). Here are some examples to display the idea. Coverict (talk) 00:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Restriction to service alleys?

How is this feature restricted to service alleys? What changes if the city decides to close such an alley for motorized traffic and change it to a foot or bicycle path? As the 'green' feature doesn't change, also the tag shouldn't need to be changed. --Mueschel (talk) 08:03, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Good question! Most green alleys are not closed for motorized traffic, but still the question can be asked: what if the city did exactly the same community-driven green fittings with a whole street? I would suppose that a whole street converted to a green alley could be simply drawn as a multipolygon (linear) parc. As for the 'green' tag, I'm not sure about it: the thing is that a 'green' qualifier is not specific enough in my view. Let's note that the 'certification' suggestion from the previous discussions might include to this kind of generalization (but 'certification' got it's own abandoned proposal since then). Coverict (talk) 14:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Importance of maintainer?

Why is it important that such a road is maintained by private people? The overall style wouldn't change if the city or a company takes over. I suggest to have a generic tag for such streets, and add the type of maintainer using some additional tag, e.g. the established 'operator:type'. --Mueschel (talk) 08:03, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

operator:type is tricky as street (for example paved surface) may be maintained by city while small scale greenery would be operated by local residents and large scale greenery (trees) by city... (unsigned) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)