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OpenRailMap

Thank you for your interest!

The table you refer to has been moved to a UK sub-page but you are welcome to re-format it and tidy it up, in it's new location..


On the subject of railways in Japan, One possible source of information might be Hisakyu's one (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:ShakespeareFan00/OpenRailMap). This is assuming that the maintainer of that site can be contacted, and an OSM compatible license can be agreed upon. ShakespeareFan00 23:54, 11 April 2008 (BST)

ksj2osm

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Hi,

I'm trying to help with the MLIT data import. I git the script, the data, then I try to make a conversion:

   ***** KSJ2 Airport Data 2007 : Start Sun Sep  7 03:15:45 2008
   ***** Target : 大阪国際空港, airport type = 1
   ***** Process of infile : End Sun Sep  7 03:15:47 2008
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 498.
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 498.
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 501.
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 504.
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 504.
   ***** Airports : 0 nodes on 0 ways
   Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 507.
   ***** Airports : 0 nodes tagged as "aeroway=aerodrome"
   ***** Done!: End Sun Sep  7 03:15:47 2008

My OS is Linux, utf8 locale. I'm wondering why no point is grabbed from the xml file. Any hint? Nilx 01:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Nilx, I downloaded the data file today and run the script again on my pc (Win XP), but it ended with no error.

 C:\OpenStreetMap\JPGIS\data\Airport\test20080907 のディレクトリ

2008/09/07  19:07    <DIR>          .
2008/09/07  19:07    <DIR>          ..
2008/02/05  16:31         2,487,746 C28-07.xml
2008/09/07  19:05            98,661 C28-07.zip
2008/04/12  08:15            29,414 ksj2osm-airport.pl
               3 個のファイル           2,615,821 バイト
               2 個のディレクトリ  13,490,339,840 バイトの空き領域

C:\OpenStreetMap\JPGIS\data\Airport\test20080907>perl ksj2osm-airport.pl
***** KSJ2 Airport Data 2007 : Start Sun Sep  7 19:09:15 2008
***** Target : 大阪国際空港, airport type = 0
***** Process of infile : End Sun Sep  7 19:09:23 2008
***** Airports : 100 nodes on 2 ways
***** Airports : 2 nodes tagged as "aeroway=aerodrome"
***** Done!: End Sun Sep  7 19:09:23 2008 

C:\OpenStreetMap\JPGIS\data\Airport\test20080907>

Sorry, I have never run the script on Linux, so I have no idea at this time. I'll try to run it tomorrow on my another pc (Win XP + VMware + Ubuntu). -- Tatata 10:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your answer. More details here:

nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ ls
C28-04.zip  C28-07.xml  C28-07.zip  ksj2osm-airport.pl
nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ head ksj2osm-airport.pl 

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;
#use encoding "utf8", STDOUT => "shiftjis", STDERR => "shiftjis"; # for Windows
use Encode;
use open IO => "utf8";
use XML::Parser;
use XML::Simple;
nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ perl ksj2osm-airport.pl 
***** KSJ2 Airport Data 2007 : Start Sun Sep  7 16:39:25 2008
***** Target : 大阪国際空港, airport type = 0
***** Process of infile : End Sun Sep  7 16:39:27 2008
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 497.
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 497.
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 500.
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 503.
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 503.
***** Airports : 0 nodes on 0 ways
Use of uninitialized value in printf at ksj2osm-airport.pl line 506.
***** Airports : 0 nodes tagged as "aeroway=aerodrome"
***** Done!: End Sun Sep  7 16:39:27 2008
nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ perl -v

This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi 

Copyright 1987-2006, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.

I commmented out the following line

use encoding "utf8", STDOUT => "shiftjis", STDERR => "shiftjis"; # for Windows

...because it triggered this error message (文字化け included)

nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ perl ksj2osm-airport.pl 
***** KSJ2 Airport Data 2007 : Start Sun Sep  7 16:44:24 2008
***** Target : ���㍑�ۋ��`, airport type = 0
Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 166.

Nilx 14:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for details. I asked to talk-ja mailing list about running the script on Linux. Then I got reply that one person is using railway data script on Fedora8/9, CentOS5.2 (Perl: 5.8.8, 5.8.10). talk-ja(written in Japanese)

Can you try the following; change that line from

use encoding "utf8", STDOUT => "shiftjis", STDERR => "shiftjis"; # for Windows

to

use encoding "utf8";

-- Tatata 15:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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Removing the STDOUT/STDERR part makes this result;

nil@senbei ~/tmp/osm-jp
$ perl ksj2osm-airport.pl 
***** KSJ2 Airport Data 2007 : Start Sun Sep  7 18:08:24 2008
***** Target : 大阪国際空港, airport type = 0
Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 166.

I'll try to ask to people around me also. Thanks. Nilx 16:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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I ran the script on my another pc today and got other error because of missing a perl module, but unfortunately the same error above did not come up. The copies of my screen are here; User:Tatata/ksj2osm-airport.pl/running on linux. If there are some commands to check my linux/perl environment, please let me know. I'll do it tomorrow. -- Tatata 07:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Could you:

  • tell me what the "locale" command tells you on your linux machine?
  • make the perl script available as a gzipped (or simply zipped) file, to ensure I have it with the same encoding as you?

Thanks. Nilx 10:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I could track the problem. It seems to come from these lines, in get_codelist():

$aac_code = XMLin($xml_aac, keyattr => ["code"]);
$pref_code = XMLin($xml_pref, keyattr => ["code"]);

Commenting out these lines make the script work, but I guess some information is missing.

Nilx 11:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Wow, nice tracking.

$aac_code is a reference to a hash of municipality code and municipality name in Japanese. $pref_code is a reference to a hash of prefecture code and prefecture name in Japanese. These are used in WAY tag as meta data of KSJ2, so you can leave them out since they are not important.

By the way, according to this page, "XMLin()" is a subroutine of "XML::Simple". Though I'm not sure whether the version of the perl module is related to the problem, I installed XML-Simple-2.18 through CPAN today; this is just a info.

Here are my locale and a gzipped file, maybe they are no longer needed. -- Tatata 15:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Missing file information

Hello! And thanks for your upload - but some extra info is necessary.

Sorry for bothering you about this, but it is important to know source of the uploaded files.

Are you the author of image File:Kamakura 080524.png ?

Or is it copied from some other place (which one?)?

Please, add this info to the file page - something like "I took this photo" or "downloaded from -website link-" or "I took this screeshot of program XYZ" or "this is map generated from OpenStreetMap data and SRTM data" or "map generated from OSM data and only OSM data".

Doing this would be already very useful.

Licensing - photos

In case that you are the author of the image: Would you agree to open licensing of this image, allowing its use by anyone (similarly to your OSM edits)?

In case where it is a photo you (except relatively rare cases) author can make it available under a specific free license.

Would you be OK with CC0 (it allows use without attribution or any other requirement)?

Or do you prefer to require attribution and some other things using CC-BY-SA-4.0?

If you are the author: Please add {{CC0-self}} to the file page to publish the image under CC0 license.

You can also use {{CC-BY-SA-4.0-self}} to publish under CC-BY-SA-4.0 license.

Once you add missing data - please remove {{Unknown|subcategory=uploader notified March 2022}} from the file page.

Licensing - other images

If it is not a photo situation gets a bit more complicated.

See Drafts/Media file license chart that may help.

note: if you took screenshot of program made by someone else, screenshot of OSM editor with aerial imagery: then licensing of that elements also matter and you are not a sole author.

note: If you downloaded image made by someone else then you are NOT the author.

Note that in cases where photo is a screenshot of some software interface: usually it is needed to handle also copyright of software itself.

Note that in cases where aerial imagery is present: also licensing of an aerial imagery matter.

Help

Feel free to ask for help if you need it - you can do it for example by asking on Talk:Wiki: new topic.

Please ask there if you are not sure what is the proper next step. Especially when you are uploading files that are not your own work or are derivative work (screenshots, composition of images, using aerial imagery etc).

If you are interested in wider discussion about handling licencing at OSM Wiki, see this thread.

(sorry if I missed something that already states license and source: I am looking through over 20 000 files and fixing obvious cases on my own, in other I ask people who upladed files, but it is possible that I missed something - in such case also please answer)

--Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:29, 12 March 2022 (UTC)