User talk:Tordanik/SoftwareTest

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Overall, looks pretty good. As you mentioned in the annoucment, I agree, that it will be important to split it out into several subpages to make the long list manageable. At that point, I guess the three columns Linux, Windows, Mac are no longer needed. Other smaller comments are, that it might be nice if a software could be omitted in a section, if none of its fields are entered or positive. Examples are the "Accessibility" and "Editor" section, where only a few Software have any entries. I also have a question of how often the list gets regenerated? But overall, I do think it is a good way forward, as it presumably also allows for more flexibility to automatically create different grouped lists from the templates in the future. --Amm 08:56, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Hi you are right, shrinking the detail view lists would be nice. Currently we plan to update it once a day, but we don't know if we can outsource the bot to a 24/7 server so we can run it more often. --!i! 11:21, 2 September 2010 (BST)
Yes, daily updates are planned once this is used on "real" pages (outside my user namespace ;)). Currently, however, I'm still actively developing the bot software and constantly adding new features. This means that update intervals will be very chaotic for the next week or so. About the other issues:
  • On the pages that address individual OS, the Win/Mac/Linux columns will be replaced with a single column that lists supported operating system versions.
  • Software entries are filtered depending on their "genre", which is set manually by those who edit the software description pages. At the moment, many programs are incorrectly categorized as "editor" when they don't even offer any editing functionality. Fixing this will significantly reduce the number of "empty" rows.
  • It might make sense to move the "accessibility" section to its own page because it has a clearly defined, distinct target audience and is not very relevant for people outside that target audience.
  • Flexibility is a major aim of this project. Using Template:SoftwareTable (extending documentation is on my todo list), it will be possible for wiki users to ask the bot to create and update a table with a custom selection of columns and filters for rows.
--Tordanik 11:56, 2 September 2010 (BST)


Hi Tordanik, can we add a '-' when there is a open license so we didn't need the price column entry? --!i! 10:23, 13 September 2010 (BST)

If I understand you correctly, you want the price to default to "free" if the license is a FOSS license? That would be easy. --Tordanik 11:27, 13 September 2010 (BST)
Yes this is my idea :) --!i! 07:32, 14 September 2010 (BST)
Added this rule to the extractor's configuration file; see last table update for result. --Tordanik 18:39, 14 September 2010 (BST)


Just a small hint, currently the Sorting is case sensitive and Tools with a first lower letter were put to the end of the list :( --!i! 10:30, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Fixed in software. Starting with the next table update, entries will no longer be case sensitive. --Tordanik 14:33, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Thanks I noted, that the xyz example from the template page itself is put to the tables, too hehe ;) --!i! 07:32, 14 September 2010 (BST)

I'm now filtering out everything that isn't in the article namespace (for example, I'm ignoring the User namespace, because you aren't really supposed to place real pages in there). There are still xyz entries, but these are from incorrect data in the Software2 templates (such as the one on GPSTracka, which has "xyz" as its name and wiki values, as well as its website). That's also the reason why there are red links in the name column - it's impossible that software without a wiki page shows up here, so all of these have to be data bugs. --Tordanik 18:39, 14 September 2010 (BST)


Can we use an whitelist and only display items here that offer one of the mentioned features? Think this will fit a little bit more to the needs of the users --!i! 10:30, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Not trivial to implement, this would require several additional features. If the Software2 template had an accessibility=blind;wheelchair;... parameter for software that is targeted at certain handicapped audiences, we could filter based on these values. --Tordanik 14:43, 13 September 2010 (BST)
Ok so I think we will add this key. --!i! 07:32, 14 September 2010 (BST)
Tell me when you have added them; I'll then add a filter to the accessibility table. --Tordanik 18:39, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Title tag in html

Could you add an title tag to the html, so there is an tooltip with the mouse? When scrolled down, i have no idea, which column is representing what :-) --Zuse 08:08, 20 October 2010 (BST)

Hehe funny one day ago we had this idea :) But currently we have troubles with template:yes that sets HTML attributes, too. But we working on it! --!i! 08:21, 20 October 2010 (BST)
User:Tordanik fixed it with the current version :) --!i! 09:21, 21 October 2010 (BST)
Thanks a lot.--Zuse 09:51, 21 October 2010 (BST)


Missing the <references/> tag. --grin 11:16, 29 March 2011 (BST)

Is there a compelling reason to use a ref in an infobox? It would be somewhat annoying if everyone using an auto-generated software table had to add a references section. --Tordanik 14:18, 29 March 2011 (BST)