Proposed features/More access keys and values

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More access keys and values
Status: Approved (active)
Proposed by: Driver2
Tagging: access=value
Applies to: Tags
Definition: *
Rendered as: *
Drafted on:
Proposed on: 2008-09-21
RFC start: 2008-09-21
Vote start: 2009-01-21
Vote end: 2009-02-04

Summary and Reasoning

Extend the Key:access. Should later be merged into Key:access if approved.

Access currently misses some values, that are needed to be able to accurately tag certain access-restrictions. Like access=destination (german: "Anlieger frei") some other cases also allow traffic to enter, if they have a specific purpose for doing so.

Another possibility would be to extend the access-keys (e.g. delivery=yes), though at the moment access-keys are mainly types of vehicles rather than types of traffic. Opposed to that agricultural=yes is currently being used (at least in some regions) for agricultural use instead of only agricultural vehicles. Having own keys could make tagging of combined road signs (e.g. delivery free and destination) easier, but could also be confusing. With this, instead of motorcar=destination, motorcycle=destination one would tag motorcar=no, motorcycle=no, destination=yes. This way you would first tag which road users are forbidden to enter and then which ones are allowed anyway.

This proposal however goes the currently used way and proposes values for these particular applications rather than keys, but it is still worth some discussion.

There are also some new keys for types of vehicles needed.

Proposed new keys

There are many cases in the real world that require you to set a access restriction for all vehicles. While there are work-arounds like access=no foot=yes they still leave some issues. What about horses? What if some new access-tag for non-vehicles (besides foot and horse) is needed in the future? It is just inconvenient to first disallow everyone and then allow all one by one that are not affected. It would be easier, shorter and less error-prone to just use vehicle=no (as well as other values of course).

All vehicles carrying hazardous materials. Such a tag has been requested quite some times throughout the wiki, forums and mailing lists. If it is already listed or used somewhere, please comment on it. It has been proposed to use hazardous_materials instead, but I think hazmat is a common abbreviation and easier to spell (and I think hgv or psv are worse).

Apparently there already exists a page for hazmat=*, but it is not listed in any of the 'official' pages.

Proposed new values

Similiar (but not identical!) to access=destination, this value only allows access for the purpose of delivering something to a customer.

Opposed to agricultural=* which describes a type of vehicle, this value describes a type of traffic and allows access for agricultural purposes, not depending on the type of transport (tractors but also motorcars, bicycles, mopeds are allowed if they are there for agricultural purposes). agricultural=* could probably be interpreted as such, but an access-value would be more accurate (since access-values define the type of allowed traffic, while access-keys define the type of transport).

To properly distinguish between agricultural use and forestry.

Examples

Picture Tagging Description
120px-Zeichen 250.svg.png German road sign restricting the access for all types of vehicles.
120px-Zeichen 261.svg.png German road sign restricting the access for vehicles carrying certain hazardous goods.
120px-Zeichen 260.svg.png
120px-Zusatzzeichen 1026-35.svg.png
German road sign restricting the access for motorized vehicles to the purpose of delivering goods to customers.
120px-Zeichen 250.svg.png
120px-Zusatzzeichen 1026-36.svg.png

Or in light of the newly proposed vehicle=*-tag:

German road sign forbidding the access for all vehicles, except for agricultural purpose.
120px-Zeichen 240.svg.png
120px-Zusatzzeichen 1024-17.svg.png

Or:

German road sign for a mixed footway/cycleway, but also allowing motorvehicles that can't or are not allowed to drive faster than 25kph.

This last example uses the already documented agricultural=yes to demonstrate the difference. This road sign allows ('frei' - 'open for') a type of vehicle, while the above examples make an exception for traffic that has a specific purpose for entering.

Comments

Please use the talk page for discussion.

Voting

Since there didn't seem to be any new issues to sort out, I'm starting the vote. You can use the templates {{Vote|yes}}, {{Vote|no}} and {{Vote|neutral}}.

  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Kaerast 17:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --BearT 19:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --ck3d 19:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Driver2 20:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Frank 20:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I neutral this proposal. --Grille Chompa 22:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Nop 22:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Cartinus 03:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Cbm 13:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Uboot 14:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. only under the condition i wrote on the talk --Patzi 15:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Tordanik 17:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Benedikt.L 18:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Mink 22:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Jannis 00:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Vrabcak 13:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Avatar 12:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Thomas Berendes 13:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Vincivis 09:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --@themis 00:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Vote result

Marked as Approved on 2009-02-04 with:

  • 18 (+1 with condition) approved votes
  • 1 neutral vote

--Driver2 10:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)