Proposal:More access keys and values
| More access keys and values | |
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| Proposal status: | Approved (active) |
| Proposed by: | Driver2 |
| Tagging: | access=value |
| Applies to: | Tags |
| Definition: | * |
| Statistics: |
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| Rendered as: | * |
| Draft started: | |
| Proposed on: | 2008-09-21 |
| RFC start: | 2008-09-21 |
| Vote start: | 2009-01-21 |
| Vote end: | 2009-02-04 |
Summary and Reasoning
Extend the Key:access. Should later be merged into Key:access if approved.
Access currently misses some values, that are needed to be able to accurately tag certain access-restrictions. Like access=destination (german: "Anlieger frei") some other cases also allow traffic to enter, if they have a specific purpose for doing so.
Another possibility would be to extend the access-keys (e.g. delivery=yes), though at the moment access-keys are mainly types of vehicles rather than types of traffic. Opposed to that agricultural=yes is currently being used (at least in some regions) for agricultural use instead of only agricultural vehicles. Having own keys could make tagging of combined road signs (e.g. delivery free and destination) easier, but could also be confusing. With this, instead of motorcar=destination, motorcycle=destination one would tag motorcar=no, motorcycle=no, destination=yes. This way you would first tag which road users are forbidden to enter and then which ones are allowed anyway.
This proposal however goes the currently used way and proposes values for these particular applications rather than keys, but it is still worth some discussion.
There are also some new keys for types of vehicles needed.
Proposed new keys
- vehicle=*
There are many cases in the real world that require you to set a access restriction for all vehicles. While there are work-arounds like access=no foot=yes they still leave some issues. What about horses? What if some new access-tag for non-vehicles (besides foot and horse) is needed in the future? It is just inconvenient to first disallow everyone and then allow all one by one that are not affected. It would be easier, shorter and less error-prone to just use vehicle=no (as well as other values of course).
- hazmat=*
All vehicles carrying hazardous materials. Such a tag has been requested quite some times throughout the wiki, forums and mailing lists. If it is already listed or used somewhere, please comment on it. It has been proposed to use hazardous_materials instead, but I think hazmat is a common abbreviation and easier to spell (and I think hgv or psv are worse).
Apparently there already exists a page for hazmat=*, but it is not listed in any of the 'official' pages.
Proposed new values
Similiar (but not identical!) to access=destination, this value only allows access for the purpose of delivering something to a customer.
Opposed to agricultural=* which describes a type of vehicle, this value describes a type of traffic and allows access for agricultural purposes, not depending on the type of transport (tractors but also motorcars, bicycles, mopeds are allowed if they are there for agricultural purposes). agricultural=* could probably be interpreted as such, but an access-value would be more accurate (since access-values define the type of allowed traffic, while access-keys define the type of transport).
To properly distinguish between agricultural use and forestry.
Examples
| Picture | Tagging | Description |
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German road sign restricting the access for all types of vehicles. | |
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German road sign restricting the access for vehicles carrying certain hazardous goods. | |
 
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German road sign restricting the access for motorized vehicles to the purpose of delivering goods to customers. | |
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Or in light of the newly proposed vehicle=*-tag: |
German road sign forbidding the access for all vehicles, except for agricultural purpose. |
 
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Or: |
German road sign for a mixed footway/cycleway, but also allowing motorvehicles that can't or are not allowed to drive faster than 25kph.
This last example uses the already documented agricultural=yes to demonstrate the difference. This road sign allows ('frei' - 'open for') a type of vehicle, while the above examples make an exception for traffic that has a specific purpose for entering. |
Comments
Please use the talk page for discussion.
Voting
Since there didn't seem to be any new issues to sort out, I'm starting the vote. You can use the templates {{Vote|yes}}, {{Vote|no}} and {{Vote|neutral}}.
I approve this proposal. --Kaerast 17:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)- I approve this proposal. --BearT 19:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --ck3d 19:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Driver2 20:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Frank 20:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I neutral this proposal. --Grille Chompa 22:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Nop 22:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Cartinus 03:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Cbm 13:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Uboot 14:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. only under the condition i wrote on the talk --Patzi 15:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Tordanik 17:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Benedikt.L 18:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Mink 22:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Jannis 00:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Vrabcak 13:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Avatar 12:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Thomas Berendes 13:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Vincivis 09:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --@themis 00:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Vote result
Marked as Approved on 2009-02-04 with:
- 18 (+1 with condition) approved votes
- 1 neutral vote
--Driver2 10:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)