Talk:Key:settlement type

Further examples

As most of the current examples are from Ireland I thought I'd try and suggest a few others:

• Deserted Medieval Village (presumably settlement_type=village. There's one example, but IIRC Beresford's book listed around 1500. In Nottinghamshire, examples include Melcombe (situated in the the area named Crow Close on OSM 419589561 419589561; Thorpe-in-the-Glebe 4349282489 4349282489 which still survives as a civil parish; Keighton was a small hamlet of potters 2414779472 2414779472; and Sutton Passeys village centre is not known, but is commemerated by a road name.
• Various well-known (prehistoric) settlements of various types: Skara Brae 249805919 249805919; Grimspound 75121475 75121475; Chysauster 233466352 233466352; Din Lligwy 799039590 799039590
• Summer Sheilings Sheilings: a couple about this location marked on OS Maps.
• Old Townships: Auchindrain, now a museum site, was one of relatively few which survived into modern times 619296447 619296447
• Bastide settlements: most are still populated villages, but they are a distinct settlement type, e.g., Labastide-Murat 389962771 389962771

In a modern context:

• Villages created by the INC Instituto Nacional de Colonización during Franco's reign, e.g., Valdeíñigos 1461022238 1461022238

Either way, these give additional support for some kind of regular tagging. SK53 (talk) 21:00, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that. There are shielings in Ireland as well; I can't remember the Irish word for it exactly, but the English version is "booley". The also exist in the Alps (Almhütte), I believe. B-unicycling (talk) 09:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

I had forgotten to add various alpine summer hamlets (which may be a bit closer to sheilings, albeit considerably more comfortable). There appear to be similar places high in the mountains in Lesotho. Even in Wales there are summer (Hafod) & winter farms (my own family had one such into the mid- late-19th century). My cousin even published a short paper on some aspects of transhumance in the Atlantic Islands (see this). There are a considerable number of deserted upland farmsteads in Wales, even when the building has gone or is very ruined, presence of Sycamore hints at past usage. SK53 (talk) 13:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Another thought: Clachans. my cousin pointed out that Ballymagaraghy 52222569 52222569 is one of relatively few clachans remaining on Inishowen. Other settlement types which are fairly specific to Ireland might include: street villages, street towns, plantation settlements, and planned villages like Tyrellspass. SK53 (talk) 13:03, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Are there any cases of historic=archaeological_site amongst those street villages and plantation settlements, though? B-unicycling (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, for those ignorant of what a clachan is (like me): Clachan on WikipediaB-unicycling (talk) 22:33, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Only historic now

I've changed the tagging on the Haitian sites to settlement:origin=* to prevent one key meaning two different things. B-unicycling (talk) 11:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

skip settlement > settlement_type or not

Looking at taginfo, there are duplicates where a settlement type is tagged under site_type=settlement + settlement_type=* as well as immediately under site_type=*, some immediately as historic=*:

distribution of values

value	site_type=settlement + settlement_type=*	site_type=*	historic=*
ringfort	131	2	0
hut_circle	24	348	1
oppidum	8	15	3
city	6	612	16+ (messy mapping)
village	3	11	58+ (messy mapping)
crannog	82	0	2
town	2	0	12 (+ 3 ghost_town)
longphort	1	0	0
rundling	1	0	0
hut_site	1	0	0
hut	0	0	12
vicus	0	2	0
shieling	0	0	20 371
settlement	n/a	3 788	~ 25

It should be discussed and decided how to deal with this, so as to avoid duplication like this.

B-unicycling (talk) 17:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)