Talk:Key:walk-in

Moved to Proposed_features

Please create a Proposal page to recommend a new tags. See Proposal process. I've moved the page to Proposed_features/Key:walk-in --Jeisenbe (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see this message before I wrote one on your talk page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJeisenbe&type=revision&diff=1890018&oldid=1889972

I'm not recommending a key, I'm documenting what I did following the request in Any tags you like. --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 23:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I moved it back based on discussions linked in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJeisenbe&type=revision&diff=1890198&oldid=1890197 --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Difference between enrolling, appointments and reservations?

At first glance I imagined that this was mainly talking about whether you need an advance appointment for a particular amenity, such as a clinic or doctor's practice or barber / hair salon. Is there a difference between "enrolling" or in getting an advance appointment? Can the tag walk-in=yes be used for barbers or hair salons which offer service without a reservation or prior appointment, or should reservation=no be used? Do walk-in=only clinics offer appointments more than 24 hours in advance, or do you have to call the same day or actually wait in line at the office to see a doctor?

In many countries, like Indonesia, it's common for patients to literally walk up to the clinic and wait for an appointment, without calling ahead.

In the USA there are many "Urgent Care" clinics that will make a same-day appointment for a certain time in the evening, and do not enroll patients - are these walk-in=only?

There are other primary care clinics that offer same-day appointments for routine follow-up care, if you call first thing in the morning, for patients who they have regularly seen before. Is that walk-in=no, if they don't offer this service for new patients? Is it walk-in=yes if they will get a new patient a visit in 1 week's time? --comment by User:Jeisenbe at 02:46, 15 August 2019‎ in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Proposed_features/Key:walk-in&oldid=1890066

Thanks for your feedback, I'll try to tweak the wording in the main page. In short: Enrolling: you are connected with this doctor and they are your default provider from now on. Appointment or reservation: "please hold a spot for me at 6pm". Having an enrollment with a doctor means you go there outside of exceptional cases. Having an reservation at a restaurant or an appointment at a hairdresser doesn't mean you can't go elsewhere next week.

"At first glance I imagined that this was mainly talking about whether you need an advance appointment for a particular amenity, such as a clinic or doctor's practice or barber / hair salon." - then it is good that there is a wiki page explaining what the editor had in mind in more detail :)

"Is there a difference between "enrolling" or in getting an advance appointment?" - in practice yes. Getting an appointment at a hairdresser or a restaurant is a matter of calling and giving your name and phone number, while enrolling at a doctor requires your health card and signing a form. (Why? In the healthcare system for which this tag was created for, a patient can be enrolled with only one primary care doctor at a time and doctors are paid for serving/"owning" patients.)

"it's common for patients to literally walk up to the clinic and wait for an appointment, without calling ahead" - this is walk-in=yes. If it is the default for the region, then tagging walk-in=yes is probably not needed, just as we don't tag default U-turn restrictions. In that region, a clinic that requires appointments to be phoned in would be reservation=only and a clinic that requires enrollment with signing forms would be walk-in=no.

So walk-in=yes is only if new patients can walk in without being enrolled? Whether or not existing patients can literally walk in and get an appointment is irrelevant, right? --Jeisenbe (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, if you're an already enrolled patient whether you need an appointment or not is a matter of business policies / time availability, just like a restaurant reservation, or a hairdresser before New Years' Eve. --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 01:56, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

"In the USA there are many "Urgent Care" clinics that will make a same-day appointment for a certain time in the evening, and do not enroll patients - are these walk-in=only?" - if they do not enroll patients, then they would indeed be walk-in=only

"There are other primary care clinics that offer same-day appointments for routine follow-up care, if you call first thing in the morning, for patients who they have regularly seen before. Is that walk-in=no, if they don't offer this service for new patients? Is it walk-in=yes if they will get a new patient a visit in 1 week's time?" perhaps they are not well described using this tag. Not every tag has to apply to every case, just as fee=yes is a useful tag on some objects but probably not on healthcare. --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, the explanations match what I would have expected as an American, but I wanted to clarify these things, since other healthcare systems sometimes work differently and different dialects of English use different terms. Hopefully the documentation will prevent confusion. I agree that something like reservation=only or perhaps better appointment=only would be clearer for clinics that require appointments, and perhaps appointment:same-day=yes for clinics that offer appointments for that day if you call in the morning. --Jeisenbe (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I wonder how verifiable appointment:same-day=yes would be though. Do these places advertise "same-day appointments", and how exactly is "first thing in the morning" quantified? --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 01:56, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Split page to the walk-in page and "Healthcare in Ontario" page

The "Healthacre in Ontario" page goes completely off-topic. Maybe keep important stuff, and create a new page for that section? --Floridaeditor (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

This was added to describe the difference between a walk-in clinic and not, to help editors classify what they have surveyed. I see you've split out a new page, but it looks like rather little was removed from this page. Are you planning on using this tag more widely? Currently most uses are still in Ontario (mostly tagged by me, I think) so it seems strange to call discussion of use of this tag in Ontario off-topic. --Jarek Piórkowski (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)