Proposal talk:DEPRECATED building=funeral hall

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Does not make sense

Why would you want to deprecate a building tag in favour or "yes"? That does not make sense. "yes" is not a building type. --Dieterdreist (talk) 21:58, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

The point that was made in the previous discussion was that there is no such building type. Thus you can only say that it's a building ("yes") and go on to say what it's used for (the "amenity"). Personally, I'm only lukewarm on the issue, but I guess it's better to clarify whether we consider that there is such a building type or not. That's what this is for. Vollis (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
IMHO there are such buildings. Any of these probably: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=aussegnungshalle&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images --Dieterdreist (talk) 22:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=funeral+hall&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images finds also plenty of buildings distinguishable from say building=house. Not sure whatever building=funeral_hall or more general one would be the best tagging, but building=yes is clearly NOT an optimal replacement. And claim about lack of distinct architecture making impossible to tag beyond building=yes appears to be very limited - some regions in Germany? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
"Any of these probably" is exactly the issue: some look like chapels, other like churches, then some could be used for events venues and some are very ordinay rooms/buildings. That's why I say use yes if nothing existing value is better. --Nospam2005 (talk) 09:28, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vollis - what is the "previous discussion" you refer to? Can you provide a link please? I fully agree with Dieterdreist and Mateusz that the building tag describes the building type and not the current usage. The building tag is relatively open for different values, thus I see no point in deprecating a particular one. building=yes is the most generic and should be refined if more information is available. If a building is used for the purpose it is built for, it can have the same value for the building type as for the amenity tag. --Polarbear w (talk) 08:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall#Future_of_building.3Dfuneral_hall (As I mentioned, this is an offshoot of the discussion on that proposal.) Vollis (talk) 11:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Full scale deprecation just because German community is unaware about correct examples is not OK

building tags and amenity/shop/... tags are for different purposes


building=church is building constructed as a church that now can be a place of worship, warehouse, unused or something else but retained building structure typical to a church


amenity=place_of_worship is a place where regular worship is conducted - it may be in a church, in open area, in former fish market, in building constructed as a warehouse


Not sure whatever there are building where their structure makes them recognizable as funeral halls, but in case where such building exist correct tagging is building=funeral_hall (potentially also amenity=funeral_hall)

"At least as far as Germany is concerned" - so? OSM exists beyond Germany. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Yep. And I was counting on this discussion so that others can add other perspectives. Indeed, maybe in some countries such buildings are very recognisable even out of context. Vollis (talk) 11:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)