Talk:UKRail Project

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Track Directions

When you map directions with separate ways, do not use oneway=yes on these. Instead, look at railway:preferred_direction or designated_direction=* keys. --Zverik (talk) 09:05, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I was just going to rotate the ways so that they are going in the correct direction and now use designated_direction=* on that parts where the Sectional Appendix indicated trains can go in both directions. Will that suffice? --Legolash2oLiam (talk) 12:39, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Uhm... I'm not sure. You can indeed set designated_direction=both instead of oneway=no, but as with the latter, I think that's the default. To me, it would make more sense to set designated_direction=forward/backward on stretches of rails where trains go in a single direction. --Zverik (talk) 12:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh I read your original message wrong. I will go back to my original plan and use oneway=no on the small amounts of track that always support to ways of travel. I wont set anything for the other tracks, so just assume the preferred travel is following the way. --Legolash2oLiam (talk) 13:43, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

You didn't read it wrong. oneway is not applicable to rails at all, regardless of the value. Tagging rails with oneway=no would not change anything, since it's the default, whether trains go in a single direction or both. --Zverik (talk) 10:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I'll just use railway:preferred_direction|both for those lines. Agree? Also, if I see another user has tagged a line with oneway=yes, shall i change it to railway:preferred_direction|forward--Legolash2oLiam (talk) 12:39, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Link to source data and evidence of permissions

Excited to get started on this project. Could you please add a link to the sectional appendices, as well as network rail's approval email/letter?

--DevonshireBoy42 (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

The downloadable versions are available from [1]. I use NESA which is easier as you can jump to each section and adjacent ones.



TO:NETWORK RAIL

Hello.

I can't seem to find the terms of use for the data provided by NESA or the Sectional Appendix; just a Network Rail generic one.

I contribute to a project called OpenStreetMap. I'm hoping to add speed limits, LOR, ELR, and loading gauge - but not anything physical that can be stolen or damaged.

I was wondering if just the four parts above and potentially Route Availability are allowed to be put on OpenStreetMap, for other users to benefit i.e research. Anything that is not on the downloadable PDFs will not be added. It's just information that is already available for the public to download via the PDFs.

I hope you can help and thank you.

More Information about OpenStreetMap.

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RESPONSE


Hi Liam Thanks very much for your email. Sorry it’s taken a while to get back to you.

This sounds very interesting. You’re welcome to use this information if it includes attribution to Network Rail for these sources. Would you please keep me posted on developments - have you seen, https://www.networkrail.co.uk/who-we-are/transparency-and-ethics/transparency/open-data-feeds/ ?

--Legolash2oLiam (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2018 (UTC)