Talk:Tag:amenity=cafe
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Is Tim Horton's (a large Canadian chain of shops that sell coffee, donuts, a limited selection of sandwiches, etc) considered a "cafe" or "fast_food"? Andrewpmk 04:39, 13 August 2007 (BST)
- I guess this is similar to a Starbucks, right? I would consider those shops primarily to be a cafe. RalfZ 12:17, 13 August 2007 (BST)
Tags
<k="amenity" v="cafe">
Generally only applies to nodes
Using on areas
hasn't been discussed/approved anywhere yet
- Is this still true? According to the main page it can be used on areas as well as on nodes, just like the other "food-related" amenities (e.g. amenity=restaurant, amenity=fast_food). Both Osmarender and Mapnik seem able to render the tag on areas correctly, so I don't really see a need for keeping this explicit restriction. --Quini 08:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Examples
name=Barista amenity=cafe cuisine=coffee_shop
name=San Marco amenity=cafe cuisine=italian
See Also
amenity=restaurant amenity=fast_food
Original Proposal
We obviously need to be able to find coffee, so, we need to be able to tag it, this proposal is to let us do just that...
Usage
<tag k="amenity" v="cafe"/>
Examples
<tag k="amenity" v="cafe"/> <tag k="name" v="Myth Cafe"/> |
Icon Design
Icon was my first go at using Inkscape for anything other than viewing maps, so, it probably needs something before it could be used... I have the svg file, but the wiki wouldn't let me upload that, so, please contact me if you want/need it... Dtucny 04:38, 26 June 2007 (BST)
Opinion
- While I'm quite in favor of this (I want to tag coffee shops in Tehran), I wonder what this really means. Does this only include places that sell coffee, or it will also include a teahouse? What if a restaurant also serves coffee? Will this still be a cafe if there is no sitting place (where people will be able to sip their drink standing or may carry them off)? Roozbeh 12:27, 19 April 2007 (BST)
- If we need to distinguish between entities which sell only coffee, those that sell only tea, and those that sell both, then possible tag them all as amenity=cafe and then a beverage field for ones which only sell one type of beverage? By default a cafe would have seating, we could possibly have some sort of subtag to indicate sit-down or take-away or both, which would also be usable for restaurants. Morwen 13:04, 19 April 2007 (BST)
- I look forward to class=greasy_spoon! I'd imagine that some cultures/countries/regions should just have their own tags that cater for their amenities. In the UK a cafe is as likely to sell cheap tea and greasy fried eggs as classy coffee with a newspaper :) People would generally know if a restaurant is likely to sell coffee - do we need to list everything on their menu? What I'm trying to say is that "amenity=cafe" can be understood just fine in Italy and the UK, even if they serve different stuff, and maybe Iran would benefit from amenity=teahouse. TomChance 20:24, 19 April 2007 (BST)
- I was going to go with teahouse as a next proposal as I've got plenty of them to tag here too and they really are normally a very different type of place to a cafe... As I see it, cafe would typically infer coffee, tea, sit-in or takeway and food availability and while these could all be individual subtags that could apply to all sorts of food and beverage type places, I think it would be good to just get the main key in there to start with and look at any further food/beverage additional information tagged as a separate step... Sound good? Dtucny 04:20, 20 April 2007 (BST)
- I look forward to class=greasy_spoon! I'd imagine that some cultures/countries/regions should just have their own tags that cater for their amenities. In the UK a cafe is as likely to sell cheap tea and greasy fried eggs as classy coffee with a newspaper :) People would generally know if a restaurant is likely to sell coffee - do we need to list everything on their menu? What I'm trying to say is that "amenity=cafe" can be understood just fine in Italy and the UK, even if they serve different stuff, and maybe Iran would benefit from amenity=teahouse. TomChance 20:24, 19 April 2007 (BST)
- If we need to distinguish between entities which sell only coffee, those that sell only tea, and those that sell both, then possible tag them all as amenity=cafe and then a beverage field for ones which only sell one type of beverage? By default a cafe would have seating, we could possibly have some sort of subtag to indicate sit-down or take-away or both, which would also be usable for restaurants. Morwen 13:04, 19 April 2007 (BST)
- I've mapped/lived/worked in a lot of countries. amenity=cafe nicely fills the gap between amenity=restaurant and amenity=fast_food. This set gives people a rough guide to what they are generally looking for: Expensive, less expensive, cheap and formal, informal, very informal. I already use it extensively.
- I'd define a cafe on a world-wide scale as "a generally informal place with sit-down facilities selling beveridges and light meals and/or snacks."
- Like some of the respondants above, I toyed with the idea of amenity=tea_shop and amenity=coffee_shop but abandoned it as impractical. There is no obvious cut-off; is an Australian place that sells mostly just coffee but offers cake a cofee shop or a cafe? Instead I use a cuisine= tag with values according to local practise. cuisine= teashop, coffee_shop, greasy_spoon should satisfy the concerns above? cuisine=teashop will mean one thing in Iran and a chintzy place for old ladies in the UK.
- MikeCollinson 08:05, 11 June 2007 (BST)
Voting
I approve this proposal. MikeCollinson 08:08, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --Hawke 22:22, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --RobertWyatt 16:36, 11 June 2007 (CST)
I approve this proposal. --Adam Schreiber 17:58, 11 June 2007 (EST)
I approve this proposal. --SlowRider 22:57, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. TomChance 23:05, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. Nikolaj 23:40, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. Matthew Newton 23:44, 11 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --Cohort 00:18, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. Ivansanchez 01:33, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. Phillip@comsomol.org 09:05, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --Onion 09:27, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --spaetz 13:59, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --Dido 14:13, 12 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --Ketti 11:34, 13 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --LastGrape 0:11, 14 June 2007 (BST) - and liked Mike's comments that it could fit nicely with the other two food places, but avoid using more.
I approve this proposal. Bruce89 00:23, 14 June 2007 (BST) - if only most elections were as conclusive.
I approve this proposal. Cagri 18:54, 15 June 2007 (BST)
I approve this proposal. --K2 21:34, 23 June 2007 (BST)
PASSED. Now on Map Features