Proposal:denomination=latter_day_saint
| Replace denomination=mormon with denomination=latter_day_saint | |
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| Proposal status: | Proposed (under way) |
| Proposed by: | Dknelson9876 |
| Tagging: | denomination=latter_day_saint |
| Applies to: | |
| Definition: | A place of worship operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints |
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| Draft started: | 2024-08-12 |
| RFC start: | 2024-08-13 |
Proposal
I propose that the current tag used to indicate The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, denomination=mormon, be replaced with denomination=latter_day_saint. This proposal technically preserves the tag denomination=mormon as a generic tag for an unspecified church from the Restorationist movement, and also includse allowing other denomination=* values to be used for other churches that are part of the Restorationist movement, such as the Community of Christ, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the House of Aaron.
Rationale
This is inspired by a change in 2018 that members of said church no longer use the nickname 'mormon', and official recommendations from the church discouraging media and publications from using the nickname (report, style guide). Since that change, a movement away from denomination=mormon has been brought several times, but never previously reached a consensus. Due to this several local groups have on their own decided to move away from the tag, and created their own new value. There is now several different variants, collected in the table below. This proposal aims to find a consensus that can unify these splintered tags.
| Tag | Usage |
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| denomination=latter_day_saints | |
| denomination=latter-day_saints | |
| denomination=mormon with operator=The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints | |
| denomination=the_church_of_jesus_christ_of_latter-day_saints | |
| denomination=The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints |
The specific value latter_day_saint was reached as a compromise between having a tag that is not too long, but still recognizing the title preferred by the church and its members. Specific punctuation was discussed on the forum.
The recent version discussion was started on the community forums. Before commenting here, please look through the discussion there to see if your objection has already been addressed. link to forum
Tagging
The current meaning of denomination=mormon will be transferred to denomination=latter_day_saint, meaning a place affiliated with/operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the church headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. For completeness, it should be accompanied by denomination:wikidata=Q42504. In a very large majority of cases, it should also be accompanied by name=*, operator=*, operator:wikidata=*, and amenity=place_of_worship.
The new meaning of denomination=mormon will be an unspecified denomination tag for a church that is part of the Restorationist movement, where the mapper is encouraged to use a more specific tag. This is patterned in the same fashion of the current uses for denomination=catholic or denomination=protestant.
As part of the discussion on the forum, it was also determined that this would formalize that other churches from the Restorationist movement also deserve their own value for denomination=*, such as the Community of Christ, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the House of Aaron. Some of these churches are already tagged with their own separate value for denomination=* which is not listed on the wiki page.
Examples
The most common use case for this tag will be regular church buildings used for Sunday worship by church members. The full complement of tags for such a place of worship in an English speaking country would be
- name=The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- amenity=place_of_worship
- religion=christian
- denomination=latter_day_saint
- denomination:wikidata=Q42504
- operator=The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- operator:wikidata=Q42504
Many members of local congregations have nicknames for a building based on the street it is on or the name of the congregation that meets there. The tag loc_name=* is appropriate for these cases.
The second most common use case will be for temples operated by the church, which are named after the city/area they are located in, and otherwise should have the same tags.
Rendering
Some renderers already make special cases for the existing denomination=mormon, such as osm-carto using a person praying instead of the cross that typically goes with religion=christian, or Organic Maps using an Angel Moroni icon. Maintainers will need to be made aware of this proposal.
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Comments
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