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atm also inside buildings

the wiki says atm=yes can be tagged: "or any shop with an atm outside it" what if the atm is inside (eg in the entrance hall of a supermarket)? I would tag the supermarkets, having an atm inside with atm=yes --Mojo Dodo (talk) 15:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Separate node for ATM: Should the bank keep the atm=yes ?

If so, such ATMs could be counted twice. But it would be easier to determine if a bank have an ATM. Are there other reasons to consider one or another choice?


In Canada (and I suspect other countries), bank machines can be members of a network that does not surcharge members. One such network is THE EXCHANGE®. This is separate from the bank/credit union housing or operating the ABM. Is there currently a sensible way to tag this distinction? Some out of network machines charge $3 per transaction, so it's notable. --Scruss (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

The difference beween the operator and network tag allow to tag such distinction: Tuxayo (talk)

Tagging ATMs separately

Remnoved a section that recommends tagging each ATM device separately. See discussion at amenity=bank. --Absay (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Status "de facto"

Hi, thanks for your clean-up of tag status fields, most of them make a lot of sense! However, I'm not so sure about your change of atm=yes from "in use" to "de facto". In my opinion, being a de facto standard doesn't just mean a lot of uses (by mappers and developers), but also the absence of meaningful opposition/competition. In this case, there's a competing tag, amenity=atm, with a comparable number of uses and an approved proposal to back it up. This raises the question where we draw the line for "de facto" status. When changing the status of maxstay, your edit comment mentioned "no major competing tags", leading me to believe that you agreed this should be a factor. Did I misinterpret that comment? --Tordanik 14:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I agree with you: there shouldn't be an ongoing debate about what tag to use. Fortunately, there is no competition between atm=yes/no and amenity=atm - the first is a property or attribute of another feature, like a bank. It lets you know whether the feature has an atm or not. The amenity tag is for mapping an atm as a separate feature, almost always on a node. Similarly, both drinking_water=yes/no and amenity=drinking_water are approved tags; the first is a property of a feature like a spring, foutain or campsite: is there drinkable water there? The second is a separate feature, tagged on it's own node. --Jeisenbe (talk) 14:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
one could argue that amenity=atm isn’t competing with atm=yes, as the property is for a different feature which isn’t an atm. Or in other words, atm=yes isn’t defining an atm, it just states there are one or more atms in the feature. If you add atm=yes to a bank it does not imply you have to refrain from mapping the atm explicitly as its own object.—Dieterdreist (talk) 20:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Some mappers will argue that one should place an amenity=atm node inside the bank polygon instead of adding atm=yes to the bank. The page actually used to say "if possible you should try to place a separate node". This has since been softened to "this may be preferred", but I feel there's still some residual competition between atm-as-a-feature and atm-as-a-property.
That being said, I can see how one could reasonably conclude that atm=yes has earned "de facto" status. I brought this up mostly because Jeisenbe is editing this field for several objects, and I wanted to learn about his general criteria for deciding the status. These seem sensible enough as far as I can tell. :) --Tordanik 20:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)