Talk:Tag:military=base
Type / Function of Base
During the discussions, it was suggested that we also say what type of function the Base carries out.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-December/056690.html
I went with military_function over military_component in this example. "Component" is the more typical term in military doctrine but "function" is probably better understood by mappers.
military_function could include: ground/land, air, maritime, space, law_enforcement, logistics ... etc as needed to cover military organization in different countries."
I'm now thinking that it would be a good idea to also say what functions a Base carries out, possibly in the format
military=base + base=* with options being
Operational - a base that houses "fighting" forces i.e. actual combat units
Headquarters - Command Centre only that doesn't have operational troops posted to it (beyond MPs & Staff) e.g. The Pentagon
Logistics - storage, supply & transport depots
Training - military training schools / establishments
The same breakdown would apply to the Bases of any branch of the military services e.g. an Army infantry battalion, Air Force fighter squadron, Naval ammunition depot etc.
- Another potential type of base - military hospitals. I know that there used to be a number of stand-alone military hospitals in various Australian cities, but they've now all been re-located inside the area of other Bases. Would we probably still need the option of distinguishing them if they are the only thing on a particular site. --Fizzie41 (talk) 02:41, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Does this make sense? Any other that people can think of? --Fizzie41 (talk) 02:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- This might need a new proposal if you wanted to formally introduce the base=* scheme. Not sure. I think your options would work but it would be worth expanding the examples, e.g. an armoury/armaments depot (e.g. RNAD Coulport) would also be "logistics" and a military port/dock would be "operational". Casey boy (talk) 10:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Raised for discussion https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-July/064994.html --Fizzie41 (talk) 02:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- & done: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:base_function
- As always, all comments welcome! --Fizzie41 (talk) 05:20, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Name of Base
In the proposal, I specified: "name=<name of the base> eg Edwards Air Force Base / Her Majesty's Naval Base, Portsmouth". Since then, I have looked at the details of a number of bases eg
https://www.airforce.gov.au/about-us/bases/queensland/raaf-base-amberley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMNB_Portsmouth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Collingwood_(shore_establishment)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
& realised that they should not necessarily be spelt in full, but rather how they actually appear on signage, or in usual use. --Fizzie41 (talk) 05:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Military office
This page recommends tagging a military office as office=military (87 uses) yet the existing documented tag is military=office (3 790 uses) and is also the tag listed in landuse=military. We should try to be consistent. Casey boy (talk) 11:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. No issue with that at all, even though every other use of it is office=* eg accountant, lawyer, government! :-) --Fizzie41 (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Missile base
How do I tag a missile base?
No I don't know what department runs it. Jidanni (talk) 06:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- You need to explain what missiles, and what country. Not many countries have ICBM for this to be asked.
—— Kovposch (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
ː Should be fine under the breakdown listedː landuse=military military=base military_service= usually either Air Force or Army, depending on country involved? service_branch= possibly Strategic Weapons? base_function=operational
Issue may be getting close enough to map itǃ --Fizzie41 (talk) 00:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Land-based surface-to-ship missiles can belong to military_service=navy for coastal defense in Russia and PRC. Coincidentally, they have independent military_service=* for the strategic rocket and missile force.
- Missiles are service_branch=artillery in an army. Again notably, PLA's Rocket Force was known as the Second Artillery Corps in their Ground Forces.
—— Kovposch (talk) 11:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC)