Talk:Key:shop

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Feature Page Shops

Should shops that have made it to the Map Features page not be included in the Country Specific Lists? Should the values table on the Features page be copied to the shop page like it is for highways? --Kweejee 03:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

shop=communication

For a shop selling telephone and internet access, all the rage at the moment. Longbow4u 22:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

In Belgium we call them "telecom" shops. --Skratz 14:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Key:internet_access#internet access shop -- Harry Wood 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Update list

The list on the page is outdated. Having an updated list on the page would be useful to see what tags should be proposed as map features, so there can be some discussion if there are different tags for the same thing. I have a list top-50 list for europe if that would be usefull.

List of values in the world as of 2009-08-19 (from Tagstat [1]):

Usage Value Comments
53,159 shop=supermarket Map Features
12,937 shop=convenience Map Features
10,076 shop=bakery Map Features
5,197 shop=car Map Features
4,543 shop=doityourself Map Features
4,370 shop=kiosk Map Features
3,553 shop=hairdresser Map Features
3,507 shop=butcher Map Features
3,483 shop=bicycle Map Features
2,789 shop=car_repair Map Features
2,722 shop=florist Map Features
2,608 shop=clothes Map Features
2,378 shop=mall Map Features
1,954 shop=beverages Map Features
1,716 shop=furniture Map Features
1,490 shop=electronics Map Features
1,481 shop=chemist Map Features
1,307 shop=books Map Features
1,057 shop=department_store Map Features
1,008 shop=garden_centre Map Features
999 shop=shoes Map Features
817 shop=optician Map Features
808 shop=outdoor Map Features
798 shop=hardware Map Features
779 shop=computer Map Features
710 shop=laundry Map Features
628 shop=sports Map Features
624 shop=organic Map Features
592 shop=dry_cleaning Map Features
511 shop=newsagent Map Features
510 shop=video Map Features
509 shop=stationery Map Features
500 shop=alcohol Map Features
471 shop=general
368 shop=toys Map Features
357 shop=yes
275 shop=travel_agency Map Features
269 shop=hifi Map Features
260 shop=jewelry
233 shop=groceries
214 shop=fashion
207 shop=drugstore
204 shop=estate_agent
203 shop=grocery
183 shop=wine
180 shop=pet
173 shop=motorcycle Map Features
150 shop=fish
134 shop=market
120 shop=shopping_centre shop=mall should be used here.
119 shop=shop
108 shop=apparel
93 shop=music
92 shop=photo
89 shop=car_dealer shop=car should be used here.
88 shop=greengrocer Map Features
82 shop=car_parts
71 shop=food
70 shop=salon
...
49 shop=confectionery Map Features
...
41 shop=gift Map Features
...
18 shop=farm Map Features
...
6 shop=funeral_directors Map Features

Mapnik render

If shop can be attached on Area, than the renderer does wrong by writing the name on the edge see here --Shmias 15:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
As, unfortunately, mapnik overlays the house number with the shop icon when both are defined on a way (area), one may prefer to define the shop and name key only on the lower left node of the area (example house 78). --A Pirard 13:12, 13 June 2012 (BST)

Farm shops?

How to tag a shop at a farm that sells farm produce? shop=farm? ChrisB 11:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Repair, Rental, Clothes... Semantic improvements

The shop=butcher has a sub-tag butcher=* with some values suggested. It should also be tagged

It suppose the two syntaxes are quite equivalent butcher:poultry=yes/no - butcher=poultry, but the first syntax - domain name like - alows multiple values.

I think there are secondary tags that should be interesting to add to some shops

In the same way the tag clothes=men/women/children/fashion...

By this way the number of tags would not explode too much, and applications could send a request to the API without knowing all vocabulary (fashion...) and all the languages (kindergarten, biergarten, and why not bouchon lyonnais and café parisien). We always have to take care to the semantic.

By this way, i am shure you know what you can find here shop=music + music=instrument;score + instrument:rental=yes + instrument:repair=yes + score:rental=yes

Other examples :

FrViPofm 19:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

how to tag wholesale supermarkets?

Dear all!

How do you tag a wholesale supermarket which is only open for retailers? --ALE! 13:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

shop=wholesale could be a solution. --ALE! 13:01, 19 July 2011 (BST)
What about the alternative "shop=supermarket" + "cost=wholesale" ... my imperfect understanding is that the primary distinction between wholesale and retail is cost, as well as access in some cases. Given the second notion, could in addition or instead use "access=membership" or "access=restricted", maybe. --Ceyockey 02:01, 20 July 2011 (BST)

delicatessen shop

I´d like to see a delicatessen shop added to the list. Both shop=deli and shop=delicatessen are used equally often or seldom. Any opinion on that? --Gkai 18:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Value suggestion: home_care

suggested ... shop=home_care ... to cover businesses which provide home health care = home care = domiciliary care = home nursing. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/64291832 for example just added (Delaware, United States). --Ceyockey 19:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

shop=houseware

A shop that focuses on small items, like cutlery, crockery, decorative items. If they also have a significant selection of shop=furniture and shop=electronics, it should be specified separately with a semicolon.

  • Should probably be shop=housewares, but that might be a US convention? --Ceyockey 01:04, 28 September 2010 (BST)
  • I'm, not english native speaker, but I was tought it is houseware --Envite 14:24, 28 September 2010 (BST)
  • Homeware is a more common term in England,UK as seen in Homeware sections of supermarkets and independent shops. On a Google search Homeware gets far more hits than Houseware, so taking these together shop=homeware maybe more appropriate.--Netman55 00:19, 25 October 2010 (BST)

[Retired] shop=wedding_office

There are shops specialized in providing wedding services: catering, decoration, photographer/videocameraman, illumination, gifts, flowers...

This is a proposal to add this value to the shop tag: shop=wedding_office.

It will cover bussiness that provides wedding organization services. It is not to cover places wich provides only wedding dresses, which will be best covered by shop=clothes with clothes=wedding.

--Envite 13:41, 24 September 2010 (BST)

--Updated 22:18, 27 September 2010 (BST)

  • Sounds like a reasonable value addition. --Ceyockey 01:02, 28 September 2010 (BST)
  • This proposal is retired in favor of one in the office=* section. Shops are were you pay and get something material instead. Offices, were you pay for services, like lawyers, getting nothing material. Please look at Talk:Key:office as discussed in the mailing list. It is possible (still discussed) that a shop=bride_dresses will get into. --Envite 14:29, 28 September 2010 (BST)

shop=swimming_pool?

I need to tag a shop specialized in swimming pools, equipment to fix, build and upgrade them, chlorine and other products for treating them, and furniture to use in and on the side of the pools. I have problems fitting it into any of the existing categories.... --Skippern 14:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Values carpet and flooring

Suggestion for best-practice and definition: If a shop's only products are carpets, then use shop=carpet; if a shop's products include many types of flooring products, including (or not) carpets, then use shop=flooring. As of July 2011, according to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=shop , "carpet" has 295 uses and "flooring" 34. --Ceyockey 19:52, 16 July 2011 (BST)

self-checkout suggestion

I've used one instance of the following:

shop:amenity=self-checkout (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/71493407)

to indicate that a shop (a supermarket in this case) has self-checkout facilities (where a shopper can complete the purchase of items without interacting with shop staff).

Do you think that this is a useful piece of information for inclusion in a shop context? In my area of the United States, self-checkout is one distinguishing factor between do-it-yourself shopping venues Home Depot and Lowes'. --Ceyockey 18:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I would avoid tag constructions such as shop:amenity=self-checkout. Imagine there is another "shop amenity" in the future, e.g. a children's corner. Following your approach, one would tag it shop:amenity=childrens_corner. But then how do you tag a shop with children's corner and self-checkout? shop:amenity=self-checkout;childrens_corner? Semi-colon value separator describes this problem. You can avoid it by doing it like this: self_checkout=yes. --Head 16:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. --Ceyockey (talk) 21:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

shops and housenumbers

The following is a text fragment I cut from the definition page and stored here for documentation purposes -- Dieterdreist 17:03, 13 June 2012 (BST)

As, unfortunately, mapnik overlays the house number with the shop icon when both are defined on a way (area), one may prefer to define the shop and name key only on the lower left node of the area (example house 78).
The mapping should take place independently from current mapnik rendering behaviour. The suboptimal treatment of housenumbers together with other features like gates, shops and similar will most probably change in the near future. The above suggestion leads IMHO to topology errors: a node part of the area is topologically defining an object on this way (in the case of a building outline I am tempted to interpret this as most likely an object attached on the outside wall, e.g. a vending machine). If a shop is inside a building, please put it inside the building (i.e. not on the outline). --Dieterdreist 17:08, 13 June 2012 (BST)

Catering service

What about a catering service? Any ideas? Anyone? --Neil Dewhurst, Lyon France (talk) 12:09, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Dairy

How about shop=dairy for smalls shop that sell mostly dairy products such as milk and cheese? I think that shop=convenience is closest, but a bit of an overstatement when it comes to the range of products available. --OSMfan (talk) 15:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

As of today, there are 58 instances of this in taginfo, though not a single one of those instances is in the United States. There are also a few outliers like "cheese_dairy", "Dairy", "dairy_products", "cheese dairy", "butcher; dairy" and "dairy produce". There are a lot more "cheese" instances (247) and additional outliers like "Cheese", "deli; cheese", "cheese;coffee;tea"; "seafood;cheese" and "cheese, milk products, fish". --Ceyockey (talk) 21:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Value suggestion: health_supplies or medical_supplies

A shop where you can by "personal medical equipment" stuff like: Exercise balls, Bandages, Crutches, Arch support, Orthotics, Sphygmomanometers, Glucometer, ...

In germany usually called "Sanitätshaus" ... not sure know how to translate this. -- Jaldhaka (talk) 15:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

In the United States you would typically refer to this assortment as 'medical supplies'. There are stores which are dedicated to this, which could be tagged with shop=medical_supply (216 uses); such shops tend not to include a pharmacy. Often a store having an internal pharmacy typically stocks a subset of materials (e.g. Walgreens, Walmart, larger supermarkets); in this case, you could use medical_supply=yes, though this tag is not in use at present. --Ceyockey (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

mobile store / shop-van / van-shop

Does some tag, showing, that a shop is a mobile store (shop-van / van-shop, not to be confused with shops that sell mobile phones and accessories), exist? It is a real situation, when there is some place, designated for mobile store. Sometimes a car arrives a few days a week and works only a few hours (so a place, designated for store usually is empty), sometimes, a car is standing at its place during a day, departures for a night and comes back next morning, sometimes, a car is standing almost all time (so such mobile store looks like building because of its fixed location). I think, that we should have 3 next tags: 1) tag, showing, that a shop is a mobile store (perhaps, mobile_store=yes, shop-van=yes, van-shop=yes?); 2) tag, showing working hours of a store (we've already have such tag - opening_hours=*); 3) tag, showing the period, when a car is usually located on its place (perhaps, arrangement=...?). Dinamik (talk) 06:07, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Game shops

There should be someway to tag shops that sell games (ex: EB Games, Gamestop). As of now, shop=video_games and shop=games are in use, and I think both should be documented; shop=video_games for EB Games, Gamestop, and shop=games for board game stores like 401 Games, The Hairy Tarantula. -Cdrini (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements

Discussion on Tagging email list in the August 2013 archive; initial posting entitled "shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements?" → http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014555.html --Ceyockey (talk) 23:08, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

TOC location and alignment

The alignment of the TOC in [2] makes the page unreadable, as the normal text is placed at a small area left to the TOC.

I've simplified it into a standard TOC in this change [3].

What is the better location for the TOC? I prefer simple things. --Werner2101 (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

shop=mail vs other values (united states)

I am thinking that locations for FedEx, UPS and their ilk could be designated using "shop=mail", but I'm wondering what others have used. There are right now only 5 instances of use for shop=mail. Thanks for your input. --Ceyockey (talk) 12:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Most likely amenity=post_office + operator=UPS or something like that, but you should ask your local community to be sure. --Jgpacker (talk) 13:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Due to the lack of other options, I have used exactly that (amenity=post_office + name=DHL + operator=DHL) around here. But I'd welcome other suggestions. Jotam (talk) 22:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Missing tags: shop=lottery vs shop=bookmaker

Both tags are missing at shop page, but I believe we should choose one first. Xxzme (talk) 10:01, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't think we need to choose one. They seem to be different things. --Jgpacker (talk) 18:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
PS: We don't need to add all shop=* tags in this list. All documented shop=* tags are already listed at Category:Tag descriptions for key "shop". But feel free to add the ones you find useful. --Jgpacker (talk) 18:26, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Coffee & tea

There are shop=coffee and shop=tea, but what if a shop is selling both? shop=coffee;tea doesn't render good. --Bbbz (talk) 03:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

shop=furnace vs. British English

Using the word "furnace" to refer to any kind of domestic heating unit is not correct in British English. That word is used to refer to industrial furnaces including waste disposal, power generation and perhaps even crematoria. A domestic unit for heating your house is termed a "boiler". A more universal term may be HVAC - which covers heating, ventilation and air conditioning. The use of "sidewalk" (a US term) is accepted because it is frequently understood and doesn't cause any confusion in the UK. But the word "furnace" is widely understood in the UK to mean something different to its US usage, so it should be avoided in tagging. --Csmale (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Shop that handles pre-orders only

Trying to accurately map a groceries shop that handles online orders and then delivers online orders only through a physical branch. Is there any special tag and value for this? (link to said shop is here)