Talk:Key:shop

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opening

I really want to add an "opening" tag - because in Germany normally backery are not open on Sundays, so it's hard to find one which opens on Sunday. see also: Proposed_features/open --Dktz 18:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Does Key:opening_hours do what you want? Ipofanes 08:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Feature Page Shops

Should shops that have made it to the Map Features page not be included in the Country Specific Lists? Should the values table on the Features page be copied to the shop page like it is for highways? --Kweejee 03:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

greengrocer

what about a (in german) Gemüseladen - dict.leo.org says greengrocery is the english expression for this - is this the typically used english expression for a shop that sells tomatoes, potatoes, apples etc.? There is an article on en-wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greengrocer - so should the category be better greengrocer? This type of shop should have it's own category. -- Schusch 09:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

shop=grocery has a symbol (a grape) in JOSM, it is not rendered by Mapnik and Osmarender though. Ipofanes 08:06, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Chemist

This is a significant class of shops in Germany ("Drogerie"), e.g. Rossmann, Schlecker, dm etc. I am not sure which key to use: chemist, chemist's shop (engl.) or drugstore (amer.). I think chemist is most simple. Longbow4u 22:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a preference, but I think one should be chosen over the other. That way it can become a map feature and only one wiki description needs to be maintained. --Skratz 14:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Tag:amenity=pharmacy#Distinguish from shop=chemist -- Harry Wood 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

shop=communication

For a shop selling telephone and internet access, all the rage at the moment. Longbow4u 22:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

In Belgium we call them "telecom" shops. --Skratz 14:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:Key:internet_access#internet access shop -- Harry Wood 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

shop=copy

What about shops that specialize in photocopies, paper and related supplies? — Val42 18:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

shop=stationery seems to be popular. --Skratz 14:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a proposal for this now: Proposed features/Copy Shop -- Harry Wood 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Update list

The list on the page is outdated. Having an updated list on the page would be useful to see what tags should be proposed as map features, so there can be some discussion if there are different tags for the same thing. I have a list top-50 list for europe if that would be usefull.

List of values in the world as of 2009-08-19 (from Tagstat [1]):

Usage Value Comments
53,159 shop=supermarket Map Features
12,937 shop=convenience Map Features
10,076 shop=bakery Map Features
5,197 shop=car Map Features
4,543 shop=doityourself Map Features
4,370 shop=kiosk Map Features
3,553 shop=hairdresser Map Features
3,507 shop=butcher Map Features
3,483 shop=bicycle Map Features
2,789 shop=car_repair Map Features
2,722 shop=florist Map Features
2,608 shop=clothes Map Features
2,378 shop=mall Map Features
1,954 shop=beverages Map Features
1,716 shop=furniture Map Features
1,490 shop=electronics Map Features
1,481 shop=chemist Map Features
1,307 shop=books Map Features
1,057 shop=department_store Map Features
1,008 shop=garden_centre Map Features
999 shop=shoes Map Features
817 shop=optician Map Features
808 shop=outdoor Map Features
798 shop=hardware Map Features
779 shop=computer Map Features
710 shop=laundry Map Features
628 shop=sports Map Features
624 shop=organic Map Features
592 shop=dry_cleaning Map Features
511 shop=newsagent Map Features
510 shop=video Map Features
509 shop=stationery Map Features
500 shop=alcohol Map Features
471 shop=general
368 shop=toys Map Features
357 shop=yes
275 shop=travel_agency Map Features
269 shop=hifi Map Features
260 shop=jewelry
233 shop=groceries
214 shop=fashion
207 shop=drugstore
204 shop=estate_agent
203 shop=grocery
183 shop=wine
180 shop=pet
173 shop=motorcycle Map Features
150 shop=fish
134 shop=market
120 shop=shopping_centre shop=mall should be used here.
119 shop=shop
108 shop=apparel
93 shop=music
92 shop=photo
89 shop=car_dealer shop=car should be used here.
88 shop=greengrocer Map Features
82 shop=car_parts
71 shop=food
70 shop=salon
...
49 shop=confectionery Map Features
...
41 shop=gift Map Features
...
18 shop=farm Map Features
...
6 shop=funeral_directors Map Features

Mapnik render

If shop can be attached on Mf area.png, than the renderer does wrong by writing the name on the edge see here --Shmias 15:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Closed shops?

How should we tag shops that aren’t currently in use so aren’t currently a shop=anything? Wynndale 18:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I would say disused is the best value since it is already used with other tags. --Skyper 10:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I think the building should be left (if drawn), and the POI should just be deleted if the business is closed. --Henriko 16:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
change the tag to disused:shop=* see disused=* --mmehl 22:47, 2 September 2011 (BST)

Farm shops?

How to tag a shop at a farm that sells farm produce? shop=farm? ChrisB 11:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Brand name

How should we tag the brands which a shop sells? I suggest the brand key. It may be useful when a list of brands is short.

Examples:

Repair, Rental, Clothes... Semantic improvements

The shop=butcher has a sub-tag butcher=* with some values suggested. It should also be tagged

It suppose the two syntaxes are quite equivalent butcher:poultry=yes/no - butcher=poultry, but the first syntax - domain name like - alows multiple values.

I think there are secondary tags that should be interesting to add to some shops

In the same way the tag clothes=men/women/children/fashion...

By this way the number of tags would not explode too much, and applications could send a request to the API without knowing all vocabulary (fashion...) and all the languages (kindergarten, biergarten, and why not bouchon lyonnais and café parisien). We always have to take care to the semantic.

By this way, i am shure you know what you can find here shop=music + music=instrument;score + instrument:rental=yes + instrument:repair=yes + score:rental=yes

Other examples :

FrViPofm 19:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

how to tag wholesale supermarkets?

Dear all!

How do you tag a wholesale supermarket which is only open for retailers? --ALE! 13:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

shop=wholesale could be a solution. --ALE! 13:01, 19 July 2011 (BST)
What about the alternative "shop=supermarket" + "cost=wholesale" ... my imperfect understanding is that the primary distinction between wholesale and retail is cost, as well as access in some cases. Given the second notion, could in addition or instead use "access=membership" or "access=restricted", maybe. --Ceyockey 02:01, 20 July 2011 (BST)

delicatessen shop

I´d like to see a delicatessen shop added to the list. Both shop=deli and shop=delicatessen are used equally often or seldom. Any opinion on that? --Gkai 18:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Value suggestion: home_care

suggested ... shop=home_care ... to cover businesses which provide home health care = home care = domiciliary care = home nursing. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/64291832 for example just added (Delaware, United States). --Ceyockey 19:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

shop=houseware

A shop that focuses on small items, like cutlery, crockery, decorative items. If they also have a significant selection of shop=furniture and shop=electronics, it should be specified separately with a semicolon.

  • I'm, not english native speaker, but I was tought it is houseware --Envite 14:24, 28 September 2010 (BST)
  • Homeware is a more common term in England,UK as seen in Homeware sections of supermarkets and independent shops. On a Google search Homeware gets far more hits than Houseware, so taking these together shop=homeware maybe more appropriate.--Netman55 00:19, 25 October 2010 (BST)

[Retired] shop=wedding_office

There are shops specialized in providing wedding services: catering, decoration, photographer/videocameraman, illumination, gifts, flowers...

This is a proposal to add this value to the shop tag: shop=wedding_office.

It will cover bussiness that provides wedding organization services. It is not to cover places wich provides only wedding dresses, which will be best covered by shop=clothes with clothes=wedding.

--Envite 13:41, 24 September 2010 (BST)

--Updated 22:18, 27 September 2010 (BST)

  • This proposal is retired in favor of one in the office=* section. Shops are were you pay and get something material instead. Offices, were you pay for services, like lawyers, getting nothing material. Please look at Talk:Key:office as discussed in the mailing list. It is possible (still discussed) that a shop=bride_dresses will get into. --Envite 14:29, 28 September 2010 (BST)

shop=swimming_pool?

I need to tag a shop specialized in swimming pools, equipment to fix, build and upgrade them, chlorine and other products for treating them, and furniture to use in and on the side of the pools. I have problems fitting it into any of the existing categories.... --Skippern 14:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Store Number

A lot of retail stores have store numbers. How should we tag this, number=*? This would also work for police and fire stations. The number could also be put in the name=* but I like number=* better. --Panther37 19:55, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

You should use ref=* for that purpose, it is general way to specify such reference numbers (for example see such usage in amenity=emergency_phone), man_made=monitoring_station, man_made=surveillance, etc.

Arts & crafts?

How do we tag a store like Michaels?

Right now I would suggest shop=fabric or shop=doityourself. shop=trade might even work here. I think we could use shop=crafts though. I don't see why shop=crafts wouldn't pass a vote. --Panther37 15:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Values carpet and flooring

Suggestion for best-practice and definition: If a shop's only products are carpets, then use shop=carpet; if a shop's products include many types of flooring products, including (or not) carpets, then use shop=flooring. As of July 2011, according to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=shop , "carpet" has 295 uses and "flooring" 34. --Ceyockey 19:52, 16 July 2011 (BST)

Mega-Store (K-Mart, Target, Walmart)

How should we tag something like Walmart? Should we just use multiple items for shop? You could have shop=supermarket; department_store; alcohol; car_repair; electronics; art; etc. --Panther37 15:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

self-checkout suggestion

I've used one instance of the following:

shop:amenity=self-checkout (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/71493407)

to indicate that a shop (a supermarket in this case) has self-checkout facilities (where a shopper can complete the purchase of items without interacting with shop staff).

Do you think that this is a useful piece of information for inclusion in a shop context? In my area of the United States, self-checkout is one distinguishing factor between do-it-yourself shopping venues Home Depot and Lowes'. --Ceyockey 18:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I would avoid tag constructions such as shop:amenity=self-checkout. Imagine there is another "shop amenity" in the future, e.g. a children's corner. Following your approach, one would tag it shop:amenity=childrens_corner. But then how do you tag a shop with children's corner and self-checkout? shop:amenity=self-checkout;childrens_corner? Semi-colon value separator describes this problem. You can avoid it by doing it like this: self_checkout=yes. --Head 16:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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