Talk:Tag:highway=pedestrian
Just added area=yes support to t@h. Morwen 10:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Cycling on a highway=pedestrian
Likely the law is different in every country so we could try to assemble a list of whether cyclists are not tolerated, tolerated, allowed or designated to drive on any highway=pedestrian roads and if there are any other requirements.
You can split the entries in (a)/(b), since a highway=pedestrian can be something that is known in the legal text as a "walking street" (or your local equivalent wording) or just a road that is in all other senses a pedestrian highway
- (a)
(or local equivalent) with possibly a "bicycles allowed" extension (a2)
, or a
- (b)
(likely not a "walking street" as defined by the laws)
| Country | Cyclists allowed by law | Cyclists must give unobstructed passage to pedestrians | Maxspeed | Motorcars ever allowed? | Pedestrians may not "unnecessarily obstruct" any vehicles |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Belgium | Depends on the traffic sign | Cyclists cannot obstruct pedestrians and vice versa | No rule, should just be careful for pedestrians | Depends on the traffic sign | Yes |
| Finland | (a): Specifically yes, (a2) is not used (b):Yes or unknown |
(a): Yes (applies to drivers of all vehicles) (b): Normal caution |
(a): "Adjusted to pedestrians and not exceed 20" (b): National limit + normal caution? |
(a): When the only possible route to destination (b): only with additional signs (mostly present for service or destination traffic, though) |
Yes |
This won't yet be an attempt to define these to be the defaults for any country, we could seek to make a summary once we have enough data.Alv 07:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
footway vs pedestrian
Vovkav 09:05, 16 February 2010 (UTC): When should Tag:highway=pedestrian and not Tag:highway=footway be used? Should not we merge these two?
- The physical difference is that highway=pedestrian is a road that previously was a normal street (in city environments, mostly), or it is a Town square. Alv 09:14, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Vovkav 07:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC): And what if the editor doesn't know if it was, or was not? What about 2 otherwise identical roads, that are different in their history? Is there anyone who needs visually distinguished history of the road? And still - do we need that ambiguity?
- The result is that the structure/look is different. Well, sometimes pedestrian roads have been built as such from the beginning, but they are similar to those that were previously proper roads. Alv 08:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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Vovkav 09:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC): damn. Are there any objective, history- and surrounding- independent criteria to tell pedestrian from footway?
- As stated on the page, main criteria is that road is as wide as normal (designated for vehicles) one, so vehicles pass it easily. --Vovanium 22:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
ways towards apartment buildings
- the description of highway=pedestrian sounds like, it's meant for bigger streets only. what about ways that lead towards apartment buildings, which are mainly for pedestrians, but broad enough for motorcars and emergency vehicles. normally there are one or two pollards, which can be tilted, so cars can enter if the owner permits it. footway doesn't fit in such a case and highway=service indicates a primary usage for vehicles. i suggest to use highway=pedestrian + an additional tag pedestrian=apartments. --Flaimo 14:52, 5 June 2011 (BST)
