Proposal talk:Tag:man made=grotto

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Unnecessary distinction

Contrasting "human-made" to "in mountains that occur naturally should be tagged as" natural=* is not true for most natural=* features. Instead, there is anthropogenic=yes and refitted=yes (from naturaL=sinkhole). The degree of "human altered caves" can be difficult to determine as well.

For your other definition or description, "Adit" is not simply "Holes" (or "in mountains") either. It has to be a horizontal access to a larger tunnel or underground space, as opposed to shafts being vertical. (And for your "for other reasons (storage, extraction of minerals, shelter) ", man_made=adit and man_made=mineshaft are currently defined for mines only)

There is already location=underground for your underground=yes. Although, it is true location=* can be conflicting (with location=*door or location=bridge; and maybe is it possible to show something is on the surface, overground, or overhead in an underground or elevated space?)

You could use eg natural=cave + cave=grotto (similar to sinkhole=*), together with the anthrogenic=yes or refitted=yes. In fact, there are already 17 cave=grotto instances, Most are natural=cave_entrance (do you have to create a man_made=grotto_entrance too???) around node 3127232816, and 1 natural=cave way 437668184 with natural=cave_entrance node 4489347940.

--- Kovposch (talk) 18:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your valuable opinion. I agree with you. Therefore, I cancelled my proposal and created the page for cave=grotto IIVQ (talk) 20:21, 16 August 2022 (UTC)