Proposal talk:Wall tagging structure refinement

Concrete blocks

Analogous with surface=concrete:plates, you might want to consider material=concrete:blocks instead of material=concrete_block. --JeroenvanderGun (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

A material=concrete_block is a well-defined standard construction element that's not just "concrete in block form". It has hollow cores to reduce weight, comes in certain standardized dimensions (like 8x8x16 inches), and has different structural properties than plain concrete. These are also called CMUs (concrete masonry units) in the construction industry, and I want to be able to distinguish them from concrete in block form. Nadjita (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I disagree with both. Isn't these simply material=concrete + wall:structure=* ? wall:structure=masonry should be clear they are in blocks.
—— Kovposch (talk) 16:49, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Unclear and non-highlighted deprecations

This seems to be suggesting to replace wall=jersey_barrier with wall:structure=jersey_barrier instead of barrier=jersey_barrier ?
—— Kovposch (talk) 16:48, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting a replacement for it, because barrier=jersey_barrier already exist, and is used more often. I just want to deprecate wall=jersey_barrier, but I can explicitly suggest to use barrier=jersey_barrier instead. Nadjita (talk) 09:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Dry-anything

wall:structure=dry_stone can be wall:structure=dry_laid / wall:structure=drystack without mentioning stones again Dry_stone
—— Kovposch (talk) 16:49, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I am not a native speaker, but a friend of mine is a British stone fitter, and he said that the term "dry stone" is what everyone uses for this technique. I don't have any strong feelings against the other suggestions, so if that's what the native speaking majority prefers, then so be it. Nadjita (talk) 09:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

I had another talk with the stone fitter, and he said that they also use the term "dry stacked" to describe the technique to create a dry wall, but "dry laid" would also work. Do you know if that's a BE/AE thing? If so, I would prefer to go with wall:structure=dry_stacked to follow UK terminology. Nadjita (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

New functions

The new wall=* are best not proposed here, as they distract from the focus on structures. Eg I don't see properties alone in wall=boundary , which can include boundary=administrative for border walls.
—— Kovposch (talk) 17:04, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

You're right, adding new wall=* values shouldn't be part of this proposal. I'll remove these. Nadjita (talk) 09:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)