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20 May 2022

      09:48  Talk:Wiki‎‎ 4 changes history +1,889 [Minh Nguyen‎; Mateusz Konieczny‎ (3×)]
      
09:48 (cur | prev) +3 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ops
      
09:47 (cur | prev) +379 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ::::"Along the way, I also replaced the existing {{Taginfo}} box with a full infobox" - this seems a mistake to me, for start it is collapsed by default. And anyway, if it is useful to create data item for something it is also useful to create a wiki page for it anyway ~~~~
      
09:46 (cur | prev) +282 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ::::Really, really nice! But it is now fully clear that we need a custom descriptions - "construction" as lifecycle prefix has distinct meaning from "construction" as a tag ~~~~
      
05:00 (cur | prev) +1,225 Minh Nguyen talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: Replied

19 May 2022

      21:15  Talk:Wiki‎‎ 34 changes history +17,341 [Adavidson‎; 501ghost‎; Tordanik‎ (2×); Minh Nguyen‎ (2×); Diacritic‎ (2×); Mateusz Konieczny‎ (26×)]
      
21:15 (cur | prev) +2,085 Diacritic talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags
      
12:20 (cur | prev) +292 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ::::::{{ping|Diacritic}} - where you would move an example from Key:turn:taxi:lanes? Or would you delete it? What would you do with Key:turn:taxi:lanes - delete it? Redirect? ~~~~
      
12:17 (cur | prev) +258 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ::::::{{ping|Diacritic}} - where you would move content currently placed on Key:lanes:both_ways? Do you think that part of it should be deleted? ~~~~
      
12:16 (cur | prev) +145 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: (note: I edited name:ko link to direct to Multilingual names which makes it less confusing, though you still need to search for it in page)
      
12:13 (cur | prev) +1,066 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs :::::: Interesting. For me basically always I need wiki documentation after (1) encountering specific tag on some object (2) specific tag was linked in other part of documentation (3) I am looking to represent something specific (4) I want to link it as explanation how something can be mapped. In all this cases having dedicated page for key/tag is superior to some large overview. For example in case of someone asking "how to mark Polish name abroad" linking Key:name:pl is much more effective
      
12:02 (cur | prev) +430 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ::{{ping|Tordanik}} Key:turn:taxi:lanes Tag:maxspeed:type=PL:urban Key:lanes:both_ways Key:name:pl Key:maxspeed:hgv:forward Key:oneway:bicycle - are you proposing to delete this pages? Redirect them? Where content present there would be moved? Or do you think that it should be deleted as useless? ~~~~
      
11:58 (cur | prev) −1 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ce
      
11:57 (cur | prev) +1,777 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs ::*#In case of redefining tags updating wiki pages is vanishingly small part of all costs. Also, in case of changing standards such pages become more useful as it makes possible to describe tags as outdated/replaced without having all that documentation of page of actually used tags. ::*#Overwhelming amount of content goes in both direction, Bicycle is overwhelming already without trying to merge several more tag pages there. Trying to find meaning of specific tag from it as a new user is pr
      
11:30 (cur | prev) +532 Diacritic talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags
      
10:45 (cur | prev) +1,581 Tordanik talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags
      
10:12 (cur | prev) +368 Adavidson talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags
      
09:33 (cur | prev) +67 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: (3) I suspect that custom text would be likely needed to make clear what is happening with decomposition of tag into parts rather than using text from infoboxes (directly or via data items).
      
09:32 (cur | prev) +123 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: (3) I suspect that custom text would be likely needed to make clear what is happening with decomposition of tag into parts
      
09:24 (cur | prev) +523 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ::::That would be a good thing for many cases! Though there would be two problems to solve (1) avoid showing this info for tags not actually used or not making sense at all or having a different preferred tagging scheme. (2) pages like Key:turn:taxi:lanes Tag:maxspeed:type=PL:urban Key:lanes:both_ways Key:name:pl Key:oneway:bicycle which have some extra info should be allowed to be created. ~~~~
      
08:55 (cur | prev) +1,119 Minh Nguyen talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: Replied
      
08:42 (cur | prev) +674 501ghost talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags
      
08:27 (cur | prev) +1,149 Minh Nguyen talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: Replied
      
08:26 (cur | prev) +24 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs clarify
      
08:16 (cur | prev) +1 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: gremmer
      
08:15 (cur | prev) +283 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: :"I'd like to update the wiki guidelines to explicitly state that such pages should not be created" - can you create list of pages which would be deleted via this new rule? ~~~~
      
08:11 (cur | prev) +522 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: :"The number of possible combinations is easily in the thousands (dozens of base keys × dozens of vehicles they can apply to × forward/backward/both)" - it is not so bad. For example speed limit specific to a given vehicle type are pretty limited - see [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Land-based_transportation transport modes]. Vast majority of them is not having own specific speed limits. ~~~~
      
08:05 (cur | prev) +39 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs clarify
      
08:05 (cur | prev) +81 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: needed noticeable time to track down Key:turn:taxi:lanes and confirm that it is valid - and I created this page after doing this. I see no value at all in deleting it
      
08:04 (cur | prev) +310 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: :Note: some previous and parallel discussion is in https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/wiki-page-for-each-tag/1471 Note that discussion outside wiki has much lower, if any, impact on OSM Wiki rules ~~~~
      
08:02 (cur | prev) +695 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: :I am quite good at understanding OSM tagging but I still needed noticeable time to track down Key:turn:taxi:lanes and confirm that it is valid. "add no meaningful information as the meaning of the tags is determined by following well-documented rules" strictly speaking may be true, but expecting all users to recreate this info from scratch is worse than having one more page. And I disagree with "well-documented rules". Someone encountering [[K
      
07:58 (cur | prev) +89 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs clarify
      
07:57 (cur | prev) +65 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ce
      
07:56 (cur | prev) +29 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: Tag:cycleway:both=no also
      
07:56 (cur | prev) +27 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: also Key:oneway:bicycle would fit
      
07:54 (cur | prev) +149 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ce
      
07:53 (cur | prev) +139 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ce
      
07:52 (cur | prev) −2 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: ce
      
07:50 (cur | prev) +1,158 Mateusz Konieczny talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: :I strongly disagree. Yes, if you are already aware about tagging scheme then separate page about a specific tag variant adds little to no benefit. But if you are for example implementing support for parking lanes then having separate page for {{Tag|parking:condition:left:maxstay}} confirming its status is useful, even if that info can be reconstructed from trawling through several other pages. You propose to delete Key:lanes:both_ways and [[Ke
      
07:40 (cur | prev) +1,544 Tordanik talk contribs →‎Redundant pages for "building block" tags: new section

18 May 2022

      21:09  Template:Pl:News diffhist +395 Maro21 talk contribs +2
      20:47  Talk:Wiki‎‎ 2 changes history −4,642 [Maro21‎ (2×)]
      
20:47 (cur | prev) +513 Maro21 talk contribs →‎EWG projects to improve wiki software
      
20:43 (cur | prev) −5,155 Maro21 talk contribs archive 2 threads

16 May 2022

      21:12  Talk:Wiki‎‎ 3 changes history +487 [Chris2map‎; Koreller‎ (2×)]
      
21:12 (cur | prev) +137 Chris2map talk contribs →‎Graphical improvements to the Wiki: Follow up on Template_talk:Wflicence
      
16:11 (cur | prev) +123 Koreller talk contribs →‎Mobile frontend UI - appearance of mobile view: reply: I added a topic on responsive tabs (-) (DP)
      
16:00 (cur | prev) +227 Koreller talk contribs →‎Images on the Wiki OSM: reply (DP)

15 May 2022

      19:38  Talk:Wiki‎‎ 2 changes history +2,507 [Tigerfell‎ (2×)]
      
19:38 (cur | prev) +389 Tigerfell talk contribs →‎Graphical improvements to the Wiki: + Template:Wflicence for licence templates
      
19:28 (cur | prev) +2,118 Tigerfell talk contribs →‎EWG projects to improve wiki software: answer questions, my thoughts on modifying translate extension, name people with experience in extension development and maintenance related to this wiki