Talk:Key:kids area

Wikipedia

I wanted to link to a Wikipedia article, but I couldn't find one. If anyone is up for the challenge, it would be a welcome addition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_bias_on_Wikipedia Bkil (talk) 20:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

designated/limited

@Zimtschnecke: In https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Akids_area&diff=2939346&oldid=2939343 you added values limited and designated. I don't understand your distinction between yes and designated? Either the venue has a kids play area, or not, So yes is sufficient, no need for a designated value too? Unless some venues have an informal kids play area? But perhaps kids_area=informal would be better, as the vast majority of people tagging kids_area=yes are doing so for purpose built / dedicated kids play areas. Also limited being the venue has no play area, but some toys or books you can borrow would better tagged as toys_available=*? See the discussion at https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/3077 Aharvey (talk) 01:24, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

I agree, I don't support kids_area=designated in MapComplete as well; and there are barely any uses for it. 09:57, 4 November 2026 (UTC) Pietervdvn (talk) 09:57, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

I'll revert the wiki change, because it was only made recently and (from what I can see) without discussion, and it changes the meaning of kids_area=yes, which for 10 years had been documented as simply "area where kids can play". So the change is wrong because most tagging of kids_area=yes would cover formal play areas. Aharvey (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2026 (UTC)

Looking at it further, it looks like @Zimtschnecke may have been thinking that kids_area=yes is for a small space set aside, with a few toys to play, whereas designated would be for a larger area with slides etc. @Zimtschnecke is that the case? My problem is I've always tagged both as simply =yes because that's how the page has been documented. If we want to now start tagging the size/scale/type of the kids area, we should use another tag like kids_area:type. Aharvey (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2026 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, I have been using designated for purpose-build kids areas, like an extra play room, in baby cafes, etc. And limited if there is only a shelf with toys and no specific area to play beyond tables. yes would just be any of those. This was inspired by wheelchair=*. However, I have no strong feelings about this, other tagging schemes also work for me. However we end up tagging details, I am all for getting the basic yes/no set up into iD!! MapComplete and Vespucci already have this, so should be a no-brainer :) Zimtschnecke (talk) 09:04, 5 November 2026 (UTC)