Template talk:Map Features:emergency

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Addition of emergency=drinking_water?

The tag emergency=drinking_water is not very common and has not been approved. Also, the page suggests 2 conflicting meanings: it might be a drinking water source that is only available for use in an emergency, or it might be a water source that would require filtering or boiling to be safe to drink. I think this should be discussed and cleared up before adding this to Map Features, though it's ok to have it on Key:emergency. --Jeisenbe (talk) 13:43, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

A formal proposal is not a requirement to use a tag. Specifically, the value was the result of a community discussion, solving a local tagging problem in a way that is internationally re-usable. The meanings are not conflicting. In the specific case, the tag is used on the backup network of wells with manual pumps, so the city inhabitants can get water in a situation where the regular distribution fails. The pumps rise untreated groundwater, which you are happy to use if you have nothing else, and treat as you like, but does not qualify for the legal drinking water requirements.--Polarbear w (talk) 14:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
In my opinion a tag emergency=yes should be sufficient. Gendy54 (talk) 15:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
*=yes is always the least desirable value, as it is unspecific. In the case above, attached to a water source, it leaves open e.g. if the water is for fire fighting or drinking. --Polarbear w (talk) 19:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
That's right. I'm with you. But fire water has specific tags. Or maybe drinking_water=to be treated would be more appropriate. Gendy54 (talk) 19:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
> "A formal proposal is not a requirement to use a tag" - certainly. The question is whether it should be added to Map Features, which this template is a part of. It's good that it is documented with a wiki page and I have added it to the Key:emergency page. But the proposal process was designed to decide when new tags would be added to Map Features. If the tag has mainly been used locally in one community, it probably is not ready for Map Features, which represent the most common tags used globally: those which beginning users ought to know first.
> "backup network of wells with manual pumps... legal drinking water requirements" - ok, so this is being used in a Western country where wells have to be inspected and approved, and these water wells are probably safe but are not officially registered anymore? That's not very relevant to the majority world (Asia, Africa, Latin America) where "drinking_water=" is used for almost any sealed or bored well with a pump. We just tag those as man_made=water_well + amenity=drinking_water + pump=manual/powered here in Indonesia. --Jeisenbe (talk) 04:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jeisenbe - I am not fighting hard to have it included in map features as long as it is listed for the emergency key. It was during the ongoing discussion that I learned that you are splitting the map features list off the key list, fine. --Polarbear w (talk) 11:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

IMHO we should remove tags with unclear meaning from the map features list. It could still be shown as an "emergency" feature on the key list, with some hint about the unclear meaning, but it shouldn't be on the generic mapfeatures summary list. --Dieterdreist (talk) 13:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)