User talk:Kmpoppe/Automated Edits/Fix Name Inconsistencies
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Single-object changesets
I would recommend making one changeset per country, with a changeset comment of "Fixing name inconsistencies for $COUNTRY, see $LINK" or so. Creating over 14k individual changesets, in my opinion, makes things very difficult to inspect. --Frederik Ramm (talk) 17:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Isn't that discussion as old as time? Getting one CS for every object would make it explicitly revertable for every object, but I shall "Nominatim" my way to get a country for every node or center of way/relation and then group them by country. Thank you for your tip! --Kai M. Poppe (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- For the record of my suggestion: Per-country is too few for such a complicated topic. You should classify them first. Which have the same name=* , which are connected highway=* / waterway=* split for OSM reasons, etc. Those should be grouped in the same changeset.
—— Kovposch (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- For the record of my suggestion: Per-country is too few for such a complicated topic. You should classify them first. Which have the same name=* , which are connected highway=* / waterway=* split for OSM reasons, etc. Those should be grouped in the same changeset.
Possibly more careful selection of items to be changed?
Quite generally spoken if you plan a substantial data reduction, I'd recommend to check whether some constellations could be of use for someone, even if it's not a generally accepted use of certain tags. This could include the identification of single users who frequently use these tag combinations, that could be contacted before (sent to this wiki page).
I could imagine for the 1st case that if the sequence of tags is initially a noname=yes then answered by a fixme=name by another user could mean that the second user doubts the "noname=yes" without having another suggestion for the name (normal use of fixme!). These cases shouldn't be deleted. In some instances this could be the content of the changeset comment with setting of the fixme.
For the second case I looked at some cases: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24676479 How would you know whether the noname or the name tag is wrong? One User with main activity in Munich (BeKri) deleted 4 years ago the name and added "noname=yes" Changeset comment "Add residential area #maproulette " which doesn't explain anything. A local mapper (Sieda) added the name 2 weeks ago again.
Or https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/369430361 Initially a complete street with noname=yes and now just a part of the street with both tags. "Hinter Brüngers Hof" (Behind Brünger's farm) could it be a description="Hinter Brüngers Hof"?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1199706878 "Lustiger Strumpf" ("funny stocking") for a 98 m section of a street that is noname=yes at the rest and all the buildings with only Housenumbers and no addr:street tags in a little village. Looks like a joke or troll activity, difficult to decide.
It would be better to add automatically a "fixme=Tag combination noname=yes with a name is inconsistent, situation has to be checked." (probably best in the language of the country). If you delete the noname=yes tag then you lose the information, that something is wrong with the item. --Segubi (talk) 18:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
We lack rules of how to use fixme
"Fixme" is a very useful tag, but it has no syntax. I have always conceived it as a tag where you comunicate to other mappers about missing information or about possibly wrong mapping. My three favourites are:
fixme=flow direction?; name?; geometry?
on minor waterways that you clearly see on the ground, or on the satellite imagery, but where two informations are not easily found, and the third normally leads you astray far from area of mapping interest
fixme=to be realigned with Bing imagery 2024 and/or Strava Global Heatmap
on ways that are clearly off
fixme=in this area many buildings need realigning with Bing imagery 2024
on a single building to indicate that the whole area is off
I would very much appreciate if such requests for help would not be removed.
The background in my case is that I typically do mapping of cycling infrastructure along routes (using mostly my own Mapillary images and Strava Global Heatmap. It is inevitable that I hit a lot of alignment problems, but I cannot stop on these, for my purpose, collateral details. I often find them by JOSM warnings on upload, like "way intersecting with waterway", "building intersecting with roadway". These adjustments should be done by local mappers, and I see my fix-mes as an help to them.