User talk:N.plath

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Vote on Proposed_features/Substation_functions

I oppose this proposal. Nearly all #Concrete_benefits are red herrings, the usecases can all be done with the current tagging scheme. 1) When the voltage of substation=traction is in the DC range (750–3000 V), a conversion is implicit. All modern railway electrification schemes use AC (15 / 25 kV), which don't need conversion. Implicit things must not be tagged! --N.plath (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Except that voltage=* is encouraged to be fill with the highest value on substations. Will you agree on a massive retagging with all involved voltage while the proposal is blamed on 2k object re-tagging? Do beginners and not knowledgable mappers will understand these implicit things? Fanfouer (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Some systems in the DC range (according to you) use AC : Gornergratbahn & Jungfraubahn. Thus it's not possible to deduce anything from voltage, as proposed Fanfouer (talk) 17:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for spotting the only exceptions. They are using three-phase electric power (from the beginnings of railway electrification).--N.plath (talk) 17:11, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

2) Low Voltage DC networks are currently _just fictional_. When built, they will probably use existing substations, but add a new power=converter. So they can be tagged just like any existing DC converter station currently in OSM. --N.plath (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

The issue is to get if the converter substation is part of a distribution or a transmission. Furthermore, power=converter implies it's transmission while it's not always true : traction and upcoming distribution are examples of this despite your scepticism. Fanfouer (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

3) substation=generation for step-up substations at power plants is in use since 2014. It's not OK to prop up a proposal with somebody else's ideas. --N.plath (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

It was documented on 2019-02-24 come on! Efforts are made to document things and install them as presets in a large set of tools and I am blamd to stole someone else's idea. That's tough.Fanfouer (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

4) Share equivalent transmission, distribution and delivery concepts between power and pipelines. This is not beneficial at all, only adds complexity. --N.plath (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

that's reality. As power, pipelines actually has transmission, distribution, delivery and industrial levels despite you don't like it. Fanfouer (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

So where are the benefits? The above ones are made-up and either no benefits or not invented here.--N.plath (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Have you tried to map some power things and consume data? Benefits are clear I'm afraid, while we'll surely have to agree on our disagreement. Fanfouer (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Good practice page reverts

The changes a few weeks back at Good practice were discussed on the mailing list in June and early July 2019. If you are not subscribed you can read the relevant archive at [[1]] and [[2]].

Do you have any specific objections to any particular changes, or suggestions for improvements? I didn't see any responses to the particular issues with the page that I wanted to address, most of which were undiscussed additions of new sections relatively recently which make the Good practice page excessively long.

Please respond at Talk:Good_practice#Please_wait_for_input --Jeisenbe (talk) 13:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)