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Hi Fanfouer, did you draw the image File:Franch_local_substation.png? Or from where do you got it?

If it is from the license is not right (and it would need to have the author and source be mentioned). However, it seems we do not have the license in this wiki (Template:CC-by-nc-nd-2.0) which is mentioned on the page footer (and I am not sure if it also applies to the images). --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 19:39, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Yes I'm the drawer and the URL you've mentioned is the original one.
Indeed, I didn't find the exact license which match mine (CC BY-SA 3.0) but I've put my name at the bottom right corner.
I don't see any argument against this kind of use in OSM since my name and my website is written on the image but feel free to improve this if you want.
In the meantime, I realise I mistyped "French" with "Franch". Please, could you rename the file ? I feel very ashamed by such a mistake :s
Cheers Fanfouer (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the fast reply! If you did draw the image (if you are the author) then you can do whatever you like with it. You are also right that you can also use different licenses on different sites. Yes,OpenStreetMap seems to only have licenses which do not restrict modification or commercial use.
It would be good if you would mention on the file page that you did draw the images, then it would be clear (to others like me) that you did not just copy the image from the mentioned website. By the way: I would think it is nicer if you would put your name and website (if you like) only on the file page but not inside the image. That distracts from the image.
I have renamed (moved) the file and replaced the file name in the two pages which used it.
A good drawing! --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 00:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome. I've updated the picture without any written reference but the URL is given in the description. Fanfouer (talk) 08:50, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh, nice, thank you! If you want to change the description (to add an URL) on the file page you need to use the "edit" on top of File:French local substation.png. --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 15:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Split of the "Power Transmission Refinement Proposal"

Hi Fanfouer,

I think, you made a little mistake, while splitting the discussion page of the aforementioned proposal. The case of the South Bridge in Cologne should be part of the new "Power Support Proposal". I would change it myself, but I'm new to wiki-editing etc. and so I thought, I'll just let you know of the problem. Maybe you could move that section?

Greetings, --TOGA (talk) 22:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Toga no problem.
I didn't have time to think about the Cologne Bridge, taht's why I moved it into the new path proposal.
I'll move once I will have find a solution. Cheers Fanfouer (talk) 22:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


Hello. Very nice graphics. Did you this file as SVG? Is a larger font possible? Read in German. --Reneman (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Reneman, no SVG for the moment because I've finally edited the result with Paint.Net. But the base graphic (mast and antennas) is from Illustrator so I will save it to SVG and propagate the bitmap edition to the vectorial base soon. Keep following the file ;) Fanfouer (talk) 17:04, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
great :o) --Reneman (talk) 17:12, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Images save in... ???

Hello. See your pretty File:Street cabinet friendship.jpg, it has no License. :-(
Please read: Wiki Help#Include images from Wikimedia Commons and DE:Wiki Übersetzung#Bilder im Wiki (only in German, sorry). I would like to say: Your files:

are great. But if all over the world could use your picture, it would be even better. Why you don't put your photos in Wikimedia Commons? If you set your photos in Wikimedia Commons, you can add coordinates. Your pictures will be shown on maps ... (DE)Hallo. Sieh dein schönes Foto, es hat keine Lizens :-( . Bitte lies Wiki Help#Include images from Wikimedia Commons und DE:Wiki Übersetzung#Bilder im Wiki. Ich möchte dir sagen, deine Fotos sind großartig. Aber wenn die ganze Welt diese benutzen könnte, wäre es noch besser. Warum stellst du deine Fotos nicht bei Wikimedia Commons ein? Wenn du deine Fotos bei Commons einstellst, kannst du Koordinaten hinzufügen. Deine Bilder werden dann auch auf Karten gezeigt... --Reneman (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Bonjour, votre/ta dernière modification de la page est physiquement correcte (on transforme de l'énergie, on n'en crée pas) mais ambigüe : power=plant ne concerne pas les transformateurs. Tant dans la version anglaise que dans le langage courant on parle de production. Pourquoi ne pas dire production d'électricité ou de chaleur avec des générateurs ? C'est équivalent à la version anglaise mais plus précis.

Merci pour le signalement, qui m'a permis en tout premier lieu de simplifier la description de power=transformer puisque ces appareils transforment une tension électrique et pas l'énergie en elle-même.
J'ai modifié la page des centrales à nouveau pour parler d'une production de ressources (électricité, chaleur, gaz, froid...) et indiqué que power=transformer n'était pas adapté dans ce contexte. Fanfouer (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Confusing edits to Waterways page

Hi, I do not understand what the text you added in this edit is about, and it seems very confusing to mention highly specialized information about "Free flow and Pipe flow" right in the middle of a section about mapping rivers and such. Can you perhaps revisit this to make it more understandable, and move it into its own section on the page? --Tordanik 14:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

That's right, a part of the original text is missing. Give me a couple of hours to correct it Fanfouer (talk) 16:56, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Update done, hope it's clearer and relevent Fanfouer (talk) 20:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Need FR help with long descriptions

Hi, I was migrating key/tag descriptions to the new Data items, and noticed there are some French wiki pages with descriptions longer than 250 characters. Could you help make them shorter? Without it, iD editor will show strange truncated version. Also, please make sure there are no wiki markup in the description. (Feel free to help with the English ones too if you have time) Thanks!!! --Yurik (talk) 17:36, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, glad you come here to ask for help. Should I edit the description on the wiki page or on the data item directly? Indeed, some descriptions need a bit of cleaning. All the best Fanfouer (talk) 21:12, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
@Fanfouer wiki pages will be enough - I will run the bot to update data items automatically. Hopefully some day we will just get rid of all the wiki page parameters (they automatically can be loaded from the data items anyway). --Yurik (talk) 21:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
It's ok regarding French definitions guys. Fanfouer (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

New example in Tag:power=transformer#Distribution transformers

Hi, is the rating=250 kVA by any chance a typo? Looking at the plate, I see 50 kVA. —M!dgard [ talk ] 08:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

That was indeed a typo, a big thank you for your help! Fanfouer (talk) 08:39, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Assistance in mapping substations

I've just started learning how to map power infrastructure and am looking for help in understand how to map the details of a substation. I've read over the substation Wiki page, but am not knowledgeable enough to translate imagery into substation components. Specifically, I was starting with this substation. Would you be willing to dialogue and share your expertise? I'm available on Slack @jared or can be messaged through Thanks!

Oil and gas "power"

In my understanding of the English language Oil and gas power is totally an oxymoron. In OSM power has always been used as an synonym for the electric power industry (see your own words about power mappers, power grids, ...). For Oil & Gas there is the WikiProject Oil and Gas Infrastructure. Kind regards, Rumburak (talk) 12:31, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

I've certainly confused power and energy. Nevertheless, that's not my words : this page exists since 2008 and mix electricity and O&G since its first version. I wasn't there in 2010 to know why it was relevent to ignite another project for O&G.
It can be great to merge forces and find synergies between electricity grids and O&G pipelines mapping, can't you? Fanfouer (talk) 16:31, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm not against synergies – I map power lines as well as oil & gas pipelines since several years. But we should keep this separated in the Wiki. And if this hasn't been not done yet, it should be done now.--Rumburak (talk) 16:54, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Power routing proposal.

Hello Fanfouer,

Excuse me that I didn't look at my pages recently. I'd be glad to continue discussions and consider your improvements. I'll accept any efforts from you, Bahnpirat, and any people who can and want to help working on this topic. Here are some my considerations that I'd like to strictly follow.

  1. The route=* only for transportation vehicle routes.
  2. Each circuit must be tagged individually.
  3. In Russia we already use my tagging schema with power=circuit relations. Web-site visualizes power lines tagged with this method.

Surly (talk) 06:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Surly. Thank you for your answer and your agreement to get this tagging reviewed. This is a nice render, thank you for showing it to us.
Currently, all France and maybe part of Germany and Switzerland are described with route=power ([1]). I see no problem to make an automated edit to type=power + power=circuit once accepted. We already described each circuit individually but currently no render use transportation-like power routes (@Bahnpirat may have different concerns)
All your concerns will be ok from my point of view, let's go on the proposal Talk to get this tagging ready for voting Fanfouer (talk) 22:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Label of data items

Hello, I please you not to change the labels ("libellé") of keys and tags in their data-items. The english entry for each data-item needs to be the same as the key (e.g. power) or the tag (e.g. power=plant).

Please notice Wiki Data_items and Talk:Data_items . Regards --Chris2map (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate you spent time to warn me about this, thank you. Could you please explain me or point me towards approriate documentation why should Engligh label contain the tag which duplicates P19 property of data items?
Label is the only place to have readable text by human and sounds like an awkward place to make any logical linking. Fanfouer (talk) 12:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
I try, but I also don't know the last word of wisdom. As you can see on the wiki pages, the concept of data items is not yet fully thought through. The key point for me is that the use here at OpenStreetMap is not about a definition or explanation of a term (as at, but an explanation of a key or tag of OpenStreetMap. Therefore, in my opinion, the key or tag should remain as the title (here unfortunately "label"). The label actually belongs to the description or alias. For now this is the only way to easily recognize that it is about the respective key or tag, e.g. with links or in lists like "last changes" etc. --Chris2map (talk) 13:40, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
The first thing which comes in my mind is the ability to translate it. I saw local translations of the tag while it is always in English in the database, it's pointless to translate a tag while it's really useful to translate a label. Isn't possible to list data items based upon their P19 property instead of label in change list? Fanfouer (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
To use the P19 as a title for all displaying in wiki could be a workaround, I would agree with. But I don't know the technical background and database links with others like Wikidata. Therefore, the proposal should flow into the discussion on Talk:Data_items. Would you place it there? --Chris2map (talk) 19:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Get me well, that's not a workaround : that's how things are supposed to run. P19 is the constant and unique identifier of tag linked to a data item. I'll ask Yuri how listing could be improved with this value and allowing English label to be human readable. Fanfouer (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
OK good! It is only important to me that I can recognize the key or tag at any time, with every link and such. --Chris2map (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)