User talk:Chris2map

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Key:highway mistakes

What kind of mistakes are on that page? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:58, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

To me [[access]] in the KeyDescriptions seemed to be wrong (instead {{Tag|access}}). But a closer look let me understand, meant was a link to the general description of access (including all the keys e.g. vehicle, foot,...), not only the literal key access. Anyhow Access is redirected to Key:access. So there is no difference actually.
And there are variances in permissibility on areas between wiki an data items.
By the way: Is there a common agreement with wether to keep the entries to KeyDescriptions in the wiki or to remove them and manage them on data items site? At the time they are double with variances sometimes. In my experience taginfo has still working fine after removing entries from wiki site. rgds --Chris2map (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
In general, it seems to me that there is no clear support for deleting template parameters from the Wiki. There was a clear support for adding data items, but it was never clearly proposed or discussed what is supposed to happen with template parameters. There may be a support for deleting parameters from translated pages, you may want to contact local community (if it exists). I know that some people want to delete parameters from templates and I am fine deleting them from translation pages, as long as data items are kept in sync with the main version of documentation. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the note. I'm going to handle it like that and keep the template parameters. --Chris2map (talk) 16:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

DE:Key:highway

Soll ich die Einträge unter KeyDescription wiederherstellen? Soweit ich feststellen kann, funktioniert es auch ohne (incl. taginfo) und die Daten sind so nicht doppelt zu pflegen, sondern nur noch bei den data items, siehe Item:Q335.
EN: Shall I restore the entries to KeyDescription? It is working without (even taginfo) and data can be maintained on data items, see Item:Q335.
Is description ("Intro") on template up to date? Template:KeyDescription --Chris2map (talk) 16:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Schön dass Du fragst. Ja, bitte mache z.B. diese Änderung und ähnliche vom selben Typ, von mir aus, gerne wieder rückgängig. Denn genau taginfo funktioniert ohne diese Parameter scheinbar nicht mehr, siehe hier: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#wiki Dort ist momentan eine leere Zeile bei de & en zu erkennen. (Nicht wundern, die Synchronisation zw. wiki und der taginfo-Anzeige dauert wohl so ca. 24h) Dankeschön im Voraus. --MalgiK (talk) 03:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, taginfo nimmt doch nicht die Werte aus den item datas. Habe die Einträge für die wiki templates wiederhergestellt. Gruß --Chris2map (talk) 16:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Category:DE:Government

Übersetzung der neuen Kategorie DE:Government siehe Diskussion Category:DE:Government/DE:Behörden --Chris2map (talk) 16:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Am 17.05.2020 habe ich vor, die Seite Category:DE:Government nach Category:DE:Behörden zu verschieben, sofern keiner etwas dagegen hat.

(en) On 17 May 2020 I'm going to move Category:DE:Government to Category:DE:Behörden, if nobody has anything against it. --Chris2map (talk) 13:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed to delete DE:Tag:highway=residential;unclassified Yes check.svg

I can see no use of the page DE:Tag:highway=residential;unclassified back to 2014 and even no enlightening evidence, so I propose to delete it. With taginfo there can be found 1 use of highway=residential;unclassified in Bangladesh way 776645449 dated 2020-02-27. That should be highway=service according to aerial imagery. I can't recognize any relation between the tagged way and the wiki-page. So I still like to propose the deletion. Regards --Chris2map (talk) 13:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

I see. Sorry, I should have checked this case more in detail. I simply assumed a relation, but that looks very unlikely given these circumstances. --Tigerfell This user is member of the wiki team of OSM (Let's talk) 13:41, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
No worries! Thank you! --Chris2map (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Data items

Translation of label / Übersetzung der Bezeichnung

Please keep the field "label" empty on keys and tags in all languages except English. See Talk:Data_items#Translation_of_labels.

(de) Bitte lasst das Feld "Bezeichnung" bei Schlüsseln (keys und tags) frei. Gründe siehe Talk:Data_items#Translation_of_labels. --Chris2map (talk) 09:03, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata

There are different views regarding the benefit and use of the wikidata linking:

--Chris2map (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Concision of TOC on Contributors

Nice job! Clean and simple. Stevea (talk) 23:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for this nice feedback! Regards --Chris2map (talk) 20:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Under_construction and Inuse: two templates

Hello, I wish to consult you why two templates employ different coding which notifies similar situation that somebody is working on a page: it is related to your revert that JA template is missing for Under construction. IMHO I translated both templates, and there exists tl:JA:Under_construction. Am I missing something?

I have a problem with the Under_construction template. I wish it had the same clever coding as you have introduced for template:Inuse. Do you advise me to consult anywhere for concensus that those two templates employ the pattern of coding we now are benefitted with template:Inuse?

Kindly consider guiding me, as I am not quite familiar with coding but very keen to support translation drive on OSM. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 00:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello! First, these are two long existing templates. I wasn't involved with the creation. I just have added strings for translations and a rudimentary documentation. - My revert was meant to the missing translation string in Japanese within the template Under construction. I couldn't find such. Within template In use it is fine. Coding is the same in both templates. Apparently you worked in a separate JA: version of the template. You can use the normal version and add the translation like within the template In use. Link: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Under_construction&action=edit - Regarding usage of the two templates: I don't know the intentions but I would use In use only in cases if edit is live and takes about minutes or few hours. In other cases for longer edits I would prefer Under construction. Hopefully I could clear it a bit. Cheers -- Chris2map (talk) 12:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Very kind of you replying me, and I have clearer idea about those two templates. The only thing which still puzzles me is that "Inuse" template shows message in Japanese, while "Under construction" shows English message only. Does the difference relate to any error I might have added? It looks to me the only change between those two templates is that "Under construction" has a parameter not in "Inuse". I guess that is how things work maybe, and if you would point me to any hint as above, I would appreciate to learn.
A side note. Actually, I wish to use "Under construction" template to avoid editing conflict on, for example, a list-type page where JA has many blank sub-sections lacking translation, and during when two/three of editors share translating the page, we wish to tell other editors to stand by till the template is lifted or come see the talk page. Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 22:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
{{Template:Under construction}} has no translation in JA yet. You have to add the translation by | ja = 日本語訳は以下の通りです。 in the English template code: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Under_construction&action=edit
You can use Template:Under construction or you might have a look at {{Template:Translation not complete}}. There you can add a username to show that someone cares about the completion, e.g. {{Translation not complete|user=Omotecho}} -- Cheers, Chris2map (talk) 16:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I understood that it would be something like:
::: | ja = <!-- 日本語訳は以下の通りです。-->この記事は大がかりな再編もしくは拡張中{{#if:{{{notready|}}}|のため、しばらくご利用はお控えください}}。
So I am going to put tl:translation not complete and sign on Template:JA:Under construction. Thank you so much for your crisp guidance. Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 20:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
I think you got me wrong on one point. I wanted to propose to use the {{Translation not complete}} on your projects that you mentioned (list-type page), not on the template page (though you can use it if you want to). --Chris2map (talk) 20:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Tag:lottery=yes

@Mateusz Konieczny: I hope you're not angry that I slipped into it so unsolicited. -- regards, Chris2map (talk) 13:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Definitely not agree! I make many edits but it is not my private wiki or something :) If I do things in way suggesting that I would be angry that others are also editing, let me know how can I change this Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Mateusz, I didn't mean to express that I have this impression of you. I just wanted to say that I didn't mean to know things better. All good! Yours, Chris / Chris2map (talk) 13:16, 27 March 2021 (UTC)