Talk:Tag:route=ferry

Contents 1 Discussion 2 Ferry Crossing Duration 3 Connecton Interval 4 Ferry or boat? What is transported? 5 Ferry stops 6 route=ferry + route=road? 7 Type of ferry

Discussion

It has been proposed that ferries are somehow categorized according to their importance, so that only major routes show up in lower zoom levels. I am not sure this is needed, as I could imagine that non-car ferries or short ferry routes could automatically be suppressed by a renderer, but it should still be discussed. --spaetz 08:30, 3 May 2007 (BST)

Potential criteria for categorization could be: a subjective importance=1..5, boats/day, passengers/day, international traffic, … whatever.

Categorys are necessary! There are also small ferrys in small lakes and crossing a river...

We have also ferrys onli for passengers, for cars, for trucks, for trains.

We also have old spice-sailingroutes, best sailingroutes around the world, discovery routes, modern oiltanker routes, container-ship routes, etc.

We have also regatta-tracks like Americas-cup... --Markus 16:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

How about a tag like shedule=*. Possible values:

• "continous" for no stop, back and forth. Nice in combination with duration=*
• "signal" to operate some signal to hail the ferry when required.
• "timetable". url=* to timetable.
• etc.

Ferry Crossing Duration

For routing applications it would be helpful to know some information about either the speed of the ferry, or how long the ferry takes. A brief discussion on the mailing list indicated that simply knowing how long the ferry took was adequate.

I would propose therefore that duration=time_in_minutes be added to ferry routes (eg duration=30). Comments welcome. Dmgroom 23:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds very good. I agree. Gorm 12:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Connecton Interval

What good is a ferry that takes only 2 minutes, if it goes once a day? We definately need something to describe how often the ferry goes. Problem ist: some go once a day, others all ten minutes during rushour but less the other times of the day. Suggestions welcome!

How about a tag like interval=time_between_departures_in_minutes or alternatively departures=number_of_departures_per_day. Example: interval=30 duration=5

time_on=* and time_off=* might also be useful.

Ferry or boat? What is transported?

What exactly is a Ferry? A boat that goes regularly from one marina to another? Is a Ferry with a middle station still a ferry? And with more stations? And if its purpose is not arriving, but travelling? In Switzerland, we call this "Kursschiff", it is only for passengers, and its main purpose is enjoying the view and ride, maybe have a good meal. Not even bicycles are transported! Either we create a new "route=ship", or we introduce a tag to specify, what can be transported. Maybe we could use the motorcar/foot/bicycle/...=yes/no tags?

Sure, access tags are already used on ferries to enable routing. --Lulu-Ann 14:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

So you add motorcar/motorbike/...=yes/no to the relation or to the way? --RalpH himself 21:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

To the way. Try out [:http://www.openrouteservice.org] on ferries from time to time. It does not work now, but I guess it's planned. --Lulu-Ann 08:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Ferry stops

I am missing a link to ferry stops.

I just add the stop points to the route, and set role=stop (as with busses, trains etc.) RalpH himself 16:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

It shouldn't be stop, it should be stop_<number> (see Relation:route). So you know the order of stops. -- Skunk 17:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

If the stops are nodes of the way (and not next to it like the bus stops), it is obvious in which order the stops are - especially if there are only two of them. (Same argunemtation why numbering of stops is obsolete as with trains btw.) RalpH himself 15:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

With the new API 0.6 the numbering of stops is not needed any more as the relation can be ordered. See also: stop_area --Lulu-Ann 14:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

route=ferry + route=road?

Some places, at least in Norway, the ferries are part of the road network, a valid question is then, should the ferry route be imported into the road route? --Skippern 18:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I guess the answer is simple: If the ferry is a part of the named, official route then add it. Else the route would be incorrect. --MarcusWolschon 06:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Type of ferry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferry#Types

Just type=* ?