Proposed features/club=cadet

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club=cadet
Proposal status: Approved (active)
Proposed by: Fizzie41
Tagging: club=cadet
Applies to: node / area
Definition: Meeting place of local Youth Cadet groups
Statistics:

Drafted on: 2021-08-19
RFC start: 2021-08-19
Vote start: 2021-09-05
Vote end: 2021-09-19

Proposal

This tag is to be used to map the locations where various Youth Cadet groups meet, together with details of each group.

Rationale

Youths, usually aged ~12-18, make up Cadet groups which are intended to introduce them to the operations of many organisations, frequently Emergency Services (Police, Fire & Ambulance) as well as Military Cadets. They are broadly similar, but also somewhat different, to Scouts / Guides.

Cadet units can be found in a variety of locations: in the operational station of their parent Group; within the grounds of Secondary Schools / Colleges; in the case of Military Cadets, frequently inside actual Military bases; while in other cases, they meet in Community Centres.

Although these Groups are very widespread and popular, there are currently few Cadet Groups mapped in OSM, and the are mapped with a wide variety of tags.

club=cadet

Tagging

Tagging will be in the format:
club=cadet + cadet=* = Police / Fire / Ambulance / SES etc, based on the it's parent Group; or, for Military cadets, as Sea / Army / Air / Combined.

Actual mapping would be as either an area or a node, depending on where the Unit is located.

Where the Unit occupies it's own exclusive building, draw an area around that building, and tag it as:
building=yes + club=cadet + cadet=*.

If the Unit shares space in a multi-use building e.g. an operational Emergency Station, School or Community Centre, map the building itself (if it's not already mapped) as building=* (e.g. fire_station; school; community_centre), then add a node to that building as: club=cadet + cadet=*.

If two Cadet groups share the same building e.g. both an Army and an Air Cadet unit, tag as:
building=yes + club=cadet, then add two nodes, in this case
club=cadet + cadet=army and also club=cadet + cadet=air, each with their own details.

In the case of Military Cadets, then the building is NOT to be tagged with landuse=military, as Cadets are NOT considered to be part of a country's Military forces. On those occasions when the Cadet building is located on the grounds of an actual military establishment, it will however, still be included under that area's landuse=military.

Similarly, separate cadet buildings are not to be tagged as Police, Fire or Ambulance etc Stations.

Common Tags

Name

The format of the name will (eventually) be discussed on the home page of each "type" of cadet group

Operator

operator=*, including the full name e.g. operator=Queensland State Emergency Service

If you know the Wikidata code for that operator, that can also be included as: operator:wikidata=*

Hours

Use the normal opening_hours=* tag to show what time/s the Group meets i.e. the time that the Cadets are usually there, not permanent staff / instructors e.g. opening_hours=Tu 18:00-21:00

Examples

St John Ambulance Cadets Logo.svg

Student Police Cadet-Kerala.jpg

Rendering

Unlikely to be rendered, as very few Clubs are. Open to suggestions of what would be appropriate?

Features/Pages affected

This tag would be listed on the club=* page under "Other"

External discussions

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2021-August/062285.html
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:cadet%3Dmilitary

Comments

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Voting on this proposal has been closed.

It was approved with 15 votes for, 0 votes against and 1 abstention.

Thank you everybody!


  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Fizzie41 (talk) 04:57, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Thomas Jarvis (talk) 06:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. Can't imagine why this would raise any objections. --JeroenHoek (talk) 10:27, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. Good job. It's perfect Gendy54 (talk) 16:00, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Aharvey (talk) 01:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Casey boy (talk) 10:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. No objection against the value for the club key. Tagging recommendations should follow general rules such as one object in reality, one OSM object. Rendering is out of scope for a proposal anyway, you can create your own render style and use anything you want. --Polarbear w (talk) 11:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Timmy_Tesseract (talk) 14:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. As mostly from Graeme, excellent and simple proposal. Thanks. --Bert Araali (talk) 16:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --501ghost (talk) 22:27, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Tysseract (talk) 07:38, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --EneaSuper (talk) 11:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 15:45, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Martin minheim (talk) 05:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I abstain from voting but have comments I have comments but abstain from voting on this proposal. My only disagreement is on the format in cadet=*. Leaving it as is. ---- Kovposch (talk) 10:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't understand what you're getting at there? --Fizzie41 (talk) 22:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --TonyS (talk) 11:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)