Talk:Key:repair

Namespaces

What the difference between "yes" and "welcome" ? Rafmar (talk) 13:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I have removed "welcome", since that didn't make sense. I have also added "brand" and "only".--Pbb (talk) 19:05, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

In wiki to be mentioned that this key shouldn't be used alone, but always with "shop". --Plamen (talk) 05:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• shop namespace : the shop value is used as prefix, the further categorization done by the suffix, example mobile_phone:repair.Further common suffixes are :sales, :rental, :parts, :type. May for example also be used if a shop=electronics repairs mobile phones, a shop=garden_centre sells robot lawn mowers or a tourism=guest_house rents bicycles (or in similar "multiple" shop situations). rtfm Rtfm (talk) 15:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Rtfm: If you want to document your ideas on namespaces, create a separate page (preferably a proposal page). Something B (talk) 14:59, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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The callout box on Key:repair says: "...It's not explained why shop=* + repair=* isn't sufficient."

Since this talk page is linked from that article, here is a direct explanation: shop=* + repair=* cannot express explicit negatives.

Consider a shop that repairs mountain bikes and road bikes, but explicitly does not repair e-bikes. With repair=*, the best available encoding is repair=mountain_bike;road_bike. That leaves e-bikes indistinguishable from "not surveyed" or "unknown," because the absence of a value carries no information. Adding repair=no is not an option, since it conflicts with the positive values already present.

A =yes/=no value on a namespaced key resolves this by making each (service, good) pair its own tag, e.g. service:mountain_bike:repair=yes, service:road_bike:repair=yes, and service:ebike:repair=no. A mapper has then positively recorded that e-bikes are not repaired, and a data consumer can tell "no" apart from "unknown."

Please consider adding to the discussion here: User_talk:Rtfm/namespace_overview

-- Osmedit (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

The user is blocked. This has no effect.

I already recorded service:*:repair=* there. Almost all *:repair=* are not about sub-modes, but broader modes motorcycle:repair=* from shop=motorcycle etc. It's exactly not explained why repair=* isn't sufficient for these. Kovposch (talk) 05:27, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

@Kovposch how would you suggest tagging the example I gave (a shop that repairs mountain bikes and road bikes, but explicitly does not repair e-bikes) without using namespaces? -- Osmedit (talk) 12:16, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

I said service:*:repair=* ? Kovposch (talk) 17:29, 5 October 2026 (UTC)