Talk:Key:shooting

shooting=range

The most used value, shooting=range, is not documented. How come? --Erik Lundin (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

What kind of shooting range is the range? All others describe the type of weapons.--geozeisig (talk) 06:45, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense to me, but since that tagging is so common, there are probably things that need to be clarified in the documentation, for example at sport=shooting. It doesn't even mention leisure=pitch. The German version on the other hand documents shooting=range as a tag for "Schussbahn". I think that if it's undisputed that the combination leisure=pitch + sport=shooting = shooting range, then that should be clearly documented in all relevant articles. Maybe it also should be mentioned at shooting=* that range not is a sensible value. --Erik Lundin (talk) 08:42, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Auch auf der englischen Seite wird leisure=pitch erwähnt. Was für mich für ein Schießstand im Freien Sinn macht. Für ein Gebäude würde ich leisure=sports_centre vorziehen.--geozeisig (talk) 15:02, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

That should go on thesport=shooting page, not on this page. Warin61 (talk) 04:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

'shooting' does not indicate what is being tagged. shooting:weapon=* shooting:target=* are better tags to use as they are specific. Warin61 (talk) 04:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

type ... this tag is now used for both the target and shooting implement. A poor tag.

Rifles can be used for clay pigeon shooting, so which tag to use then?

This tag should be split into the target and object used to shoot. Warin61 (talk) 23:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@Warin61: I've only used this key a few times, but it seems to me like an indication of the shooting discipline, rather than the literal weapon and target. Shooting events are classified similarly in the Olympics, for example. I think it makes more sense for shooting=* to be about the discipline than the equipment used in that discipline. After all, rifles are also used in paintball and bullseyes are also used in archery and darts, but we have separate sport=* values for those sports. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 21:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@Minh Nguyen: Would not the person seek firstly the object they want to use, archers would seek archery ranges and then the attributes of the range? If the local ranges were not of the kind desired then a choice can be made of those available locally. Feel free to make yet another tag to detail what the 'shooting' is about.. but 'type' is too ambiguous as is 'shooting'. 'Discipline' may also be misused. The present values of shooting demonstrate the problem; range, indoor_range, rifle, pistol, paintball, clay_pigeon, airsoft, shotgun, bow, stand etc. A rifle range would be tagged how? If shooting_implement=rifle/pistol/paintball/shotgun/bow/cross_bow/* and shooting-pitch?=range/indoor_range/* shooting_distance=* the confusion would be less? I say again: This tag should be split! Warin61 (talk) 09:32, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

The user knows both their implement and target upfront. In my opinion, we would ideally just have a more specific sport=* value for each shooting sport/discipline, following the example of sport=paintball (which involves rifles that are used very differently), and similar to how sport=softball has become popular as a sport value in its own right rather than a subtype of sport=baseball (despite using essentially the same equipment). Any venues that are for "shooting sports" in general (which probably excludes paintball) can keep using this tag. But I have no personal experience with any of these sports except archery (and only laughably so), so I could be off the mark on this one. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 00:10, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

OSM does not do that for sport=running, so having sport=clay_shooting_rifle and sport=clay_shooting_shotgun etc I think is going to be too far. Warin61 (talk) 06:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)