Talk:Tag:amenity=baby hatch

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Rendering proposal

A baby and a woman turning away from it, maybe anonymously hiding her face with her hand.

Only common in some places

I'd never heard of this before, because they are illegal in the UK, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch

Illegal to use or to operate? --Lulu-Ann 13:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Seems to be both; operation should fall under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory , but I only read the wiki. Alv 12:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that really an amenity?

As useful as those baby hatches are, at first I have to say I don't think this is anything one would look up in OSM or plan a route to. At least not at the time one would need it. As far as I know those baby hatches are always near/in hospitals, so I wouldn't tag it as amenity. It's more a detail which could be added to hospitals. In my opinion that would be sufficiently tagged. --BearT 19:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello BearT, in Germany often organizations with a low budget are the operators. Why not offer them the chance to put a free of charge map on their homepages and their flyers? That's where the women search for it. --Lulu-Ann 15:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
We have one of them here in Antwerp (only one in Belgium) which isn't anywhere near a hospital. It's in an anonymous house somewhere in the middle of a residential area. So it's not an option to tag that as hospital. --Eimai 19:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, then I guess that is specific to Austria, since I only know them near hospitals. (I guess it's much cheaper, since medical staff is available 24/7 with our without the hatch.) --BearT 19:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
That's a european view. In third world baby hatches are often in homes orphans. --Lulu-Ann 15:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think this is relevant to be put on a map. A young mother would not look on OSM to find a baby hatch nearby. --MrJott 20:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Agree, but that doesn't have to be reason not to put it the database. OSM --Skywave 09:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
As stated above, the mothers will find the map on homepages of operators or on flyers which will be happy to have a map free of charge. But only if we map them. --Lulu-Ann 15:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think this is particularly far-fetched. And besides, a social services group might use OSM data to provide an informational resource to new mothers. The parents wouldn't have to know about OSM in order for this data to be useful. -- Phyzome (talk) 03:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

service instead of amenity

Since this is more a service than a amenity it should be tagged as service_industry=care:baby_hatch or something similar! See Proposed_features/Service_business --Phobie 17:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Translation

  • I would be happy if native speakers could help me with translations of "baby hatch" in their languages.
Language/ Area Translation Remarks (Legal?) Translated by
German, Germany Babyklappe de:Legal, leads into adoption if child ist not claimed within some weeks --Lulu-Ann 13:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Spanish, Spain 'Buzón para bebés' or 'Buzón-bebé' --Jldominguez 11:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Italian, Italy 'Culle per la vita' (cradle for life) or 'ruota dei trovatelli' (foundling wheel) it:Legal, somewhat present in most of the cities across Italy --Simone 14:47, 8 September 2008 (CET)
English, South Africa Hole in the wall (amongst other names.) Qazi-Legal, leads to adoption if child is not claimed within a defined period. -- firefishy 08:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Language, Area Translation Remark -- User & date

UN text

I think we should remove this ("The UN Children's rights might make it impossible [...]"). Regardless of whether everyone supports these places, they do exist. Not all countries have ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Even if they have, no source is cited for the idea that it violates the convention. Mattflaschen (talk) 04:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

New example needed

For whatever reason, the Saint George's baby hatch node is missing and besides, the URL is out of date. I was looking for another example (preferably not from an area overrepresented in OSM-wiki already, I think all example sections should keep diversity in mind...in this case, there are many nodes in Indonesia it seems), with the criteria: uses operator=* instead of just name=*, as this shows that mapping the hatch separately from a surrounding building (say) is encouraged; optionally has some sort of contact info to show that in some cases assistance is offered; has opening hours to indicate when the hatch can be used; and follows wiki recommendations on the tags that are used. Of course, editing can help with any of the above. Arlo James Barnes (talk) 04:31, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Many, if not most, of the amenity=baby_hatch tag usage in Indonesia are wrong. The tag is used for different objects:

These facilities are not baby hatches, and I have never heard of baby hatches (a place where mothers can place their babies anonymously to be taken care of) in Indonesia. So there are probably no Indonesian examples that can be used here. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 22:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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