Talk:Featured tile layers
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Is any of these proposed layers meeting requirement "Internally supported. The service provider/author must be in favor of having their tile layer on the website." from Featured tile layers/Guidelines for new tile layers? If not, I propose to move these layers to Tiles#Servers Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Notification about fr style: User_talk:Verdy_p#Featured_tile_layers Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- So adding it here was not made on behalf os style maintainers/operators - see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Verdy_p&diff=1312359&oldid=1312295 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Misleading claim of support removed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 18:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- I dind't understand what you need. Christian Quest (style maintener and one sysadmin of osm.fr) him self edit this entry Marc marc (talk) 09:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- OSM-FR was added in [1] by Verdy_p who was known for weird edits (and ended with infinitely long block). So I suspicious about whatever this edit is OK. So you think that [2] is enough to demonstrate that there is support for adding it ? Is there any chance of a clear support started somewhere like with Cyclosm in http://listes.openstreetmap.fr/wws/arc/association/2020-06/msg00008.html ? As explanation: I made this edits as entire bunch of "proposals" appeared apparently without any support from operators of given projects. Given Verdy_p involvement I assumed that the same happened here. Sorry for a temporary damage, I already repaired Cyclosm entry. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- although the addition of verdy_p silk totament fancy (he's not in the team able to know if this kind of proposal is technically realistic and wished), the fact that cquest modified the entry shows that the support is ok (and technically realistic like all the other layers hosted by osm-fr. however the question is elsewhere: is a style in a specific language and with a single maintainer suitable to be a major layer on osm.org? it's not up to me to answer.Marc marc (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- "with a single maintainer" applies to for example bicycle layer displayed already. Personally I have no trouble with style in a specific language, as long as it is not a default one. I rather consider it as something interesting, what should make its inclusion more likely Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- although the addition of verdy_p silk totament fancy (he's not in the team able to know if this kind of proposal is technically realistic and wished), the fact that cquest modified the entry shows that the support is ok (and technically realistic like all the other layers hosted by osm-fr. however the question is elsewhere: is a style in a specific language and with a single maintainer suitable to be a major layer on osm.org? it's not up to me to answer.Marc marc (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- OSM-FR was added in [1] by Verdy_p who was known for weird edits (and ended with infinitely long block). So I suspicious about whatever this edit is OK. So you think that [2] is enough to demonstrate that there is support for adding it ? Is there any chance of a clear support started somewhere like with Cyclosm in http://listes.openstreetmap.fr/wws/arc/association/2020-06/msg00008.html ? As explanation: I made this edits as entire bunch of "proposals" appeared apparently without any support from operators of given projects. Given Verdy_p involvement I assumed that the same happened here. Sorry for a temporary damage, I already repaired Cyclosm entry. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- I dind't understand what you need. Christian Quest (style maintener and one sysadmin of osm.fr) him self edit this entry Marc marc (talk) 09:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Misleading claim of support removed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 18:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- So adding it here was not made on behalf os style maintainers/operators - see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Verdy_p&diff=1312359&oldid=1312295 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Proposals without support from maintainers
Does it make any sense to add "proposals" not supported by people hosting map style and maintaining it? Main blocker is funding and support for hosting Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- of course not. if added with "support ok", it should be made by support it-self or have a summary with info about it. if not, it should be "Investigate" Marc marc (talk) 10:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- I will remove "Dark Matter" entry soon as not supported by maintainers of that style Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I removed Dark Matter and some other "proposals" not supported by actually involved people. Now I plan to check remaining projects, for now I created OpenSeaMap section Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:42, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- I will remove "Dark Matter" entry soon as not supported by maintainers of that style Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
C933103 additions
C933103 added numerous proposals in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Featured_tile_layers&type=revision&diff=1999425&oldid=1988028 but is not maintainer of any of this projects.
Are you planning to reach out to this maintainers? I am dubious whatever it is OK to bother them about this, but maybe it would be OK to do it tactfully and carefully?
But I am quite dubious about adding proposals while not representing maintainer of this projects Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- I plan to remove this additions Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:41, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Multilingual Maps support
Currently, OSM renders on only name. Countries like India, which has multilanguages users doesn't know there is an option to enter the local in there language. This is leading to lot of re-work. -- Naveenpf (talk) 01:50, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- If you are aware about someone operating map without this limitation, willing to sponsor deployment as selectable layer - feel free to contact them, maybe there will be open for such contribution! (just do it politely, noone is obligated to sponsor something like that) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Is OpenSeaMap internally supported?
Added in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Featured_tile_layers&diff=640514&oldid=636212 - not sure what is the current status and whatever this edit was made on behalf of maintainers and operators of their servers Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- added by someone who has "Based on this I initiated OpenSeaMap.org - the free nautical chart." in profile Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:45, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Is Wikipedia/Wikimedia "Multilingual Maps" addition internally supported?
Added in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Featured_tile_layers&diff=652256&oldid=641118 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Tirkon#Featured Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Resolved - user who added it self-reverted Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Would it make sense to add commercial hiking map?
I think OSM main page desperately needs a layer for hikers. But from what I surveyed there isn't any that is pretty enough and covers the while globe. There is though one commercial render of OSM data into outdoor map that is updated frequently at en.mapy.cz (e.g. https://en.mapy.cz/s/mulezecuru). But before I would even try to contact them, is it possible to have such a map featured? Obviously the code is not available and another thing seems to be the for Czech republic they still use their own data and OSM data is used for the rest of the world. --Mashin (talk) 17:30, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers - "Open data. The proposed tile layer must not use any non-free data." Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- I saw that. That's why I asked. --Mashin (talk) 17:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Max zoom level
What is "Uniqueness" in zoom levels? Especially for layers where it is not high? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Remove OPNVKarte
Despite the wiki claiming that OPNVKarte updates within 5 minutes, as of now, the OPNVKarte layer is months out of date. This isn't the first time this inconsistent updaing has occured, a few months ago, the same kind of thing happened, there the map did not update for months at a time. I believe that his layer does not deserve to be a featured layer due to such inconsistencies. Andrepoiy (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Have you flushed local browser cache? Have you tried reporting problem to OPNVKarte operators? Which specific location is a problem? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have flushed local browser cache every time. I'm not sure where to find OPNVKarte's support site. The location was the Toronto area. However, as of the writing of this comment, it appears that the map has finally updated (although even after the update, what is shown is still at least a week behind since one line that I made a week ago is still non-existent). I will keep you posted if there is another future gap in map updating. Andrepoiy (talk) 02:39, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- ÖPNVKarte is maintained by Melchior Moos. You can find the contact information on öpnvkarte.de. --Tigerfell
(Let's talk) 13:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- ÖPNVKarte is maintained by Melchior Moos. You can find the contact information on öpnvkarte.de. --Tigerfell
- I can confirm a delay of at least one month, I've changed it in the page. I'm not advocating for a removal though. I prefer its rendering to the one of Transport Map. The RedBurn (talk) 19:30, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have flushed local browser cache every time. I'm not sure where to find OPNVKarte's support site. The location was the Toronto area. However, as of the writing of this comment, it appears that the map has finally updated (although even after the update, what is shown is still at least a week behind since one line that I made a week ago is still non-existent). I will keep you posted if there is another future gap in map updating. Andrepoiy (talk) 02:39, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Layer URL parameter
Perhaps add Layer URL parameter to the table as a new column. Jidanni (talk) 10:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Factually wrong and misleading info
Follow-up from https://github.com/openstreetmap-carto/openstreetmap-carto/issues/4428#issuecomment-4243027459:
Most of the information in the Preferred columns of the tile layer table is either factually wrong or strongly misleading - the OK entries, for example, are just funny since they are neither yes nor no but deliberately avoid making a factual statement while implying universal approval in that regard.
But, of course, the idea to have a page like this present neutral and unbiased information in a context of massive interests like with the tile layer featured on osm.org, is not realistic. Imagico (talk) 12:02, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Imagico: is there any factually wrong claim here? (I just removed outdated ", except for admin boundaries at z1-z3 (Natural Earth)") Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 04:19, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- I first like to say that i am not editing the page myself because i have a clear conflict of interest.
- You made changes to the OSM-Carto line only, which was not primarily what i was referring to in my comment. The fix for the outdated info that OSM-Carto uses Natural Earth is of course beneficial. You also made changes in the Required columns - which i was not talking about. The Traffic and Reliable columns are subjective assessments, here the OK assessment makes sense - though for the active layers this does not provide meaningful information, this is only relevant for the former layers do document why the layer was removed.
- The real issues are with the Preferred columns of the other layers, there are errors and omissions in all of them. Obviously the Non-commercial column is nonsense as is - no matter how you define Non-commercial services. If you contrast styles developed as volunteer community projects with styles created by paid developers you have 2-3 non-commercial, the rest commercial (the Humanitarian layer classification is kind of moot here since not in active development any more). If you go by the tile service technically being run by a commercial entity vs. by a de facto non-profit - independent of who develops and controls the design - then you have 4 non-commercial. The Tracestrack layer is only partially open source and the use of non-OSM-data is not accurate for many layers (especially, of course, Maptiler).
- And the verbal columns (Uniqueness, Significance) are essentially a weird combination of writing up and writing down the different layers. The Featured tile layers/Guidelines for new tile layers are actually a good set of criteria for selecting featured tile layers if based on a well informed assessment that minimizes the influence of special interests. The verbal columns would be a good opportunity to demonstrate and document that such assessment took place. Or to put it the other way round: As is they don't leave a very good impression of the process how the OSM community or the OSMF approach the selection of featured tile layers or that the OSM community has a good idea why they feature these layers. Imagico (talk) 06:30, 16 April 2026 (UTC)