Talk:Tagging in Support of Women and Girls

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social_facility tagging scheme

The proposed tags are at odds with the social_facility tagging scheme that is in fairly wide use and, if necessary, can be expanded to cover more specialized facilities easily. SimonPoole (talk) 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Fixed --Bgirardot (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Mapping shelters against domestic violence

It should be noted that for certain of the facilities (for example shelters against domestic violence) that these are in general only mapped if they are actually sign posted and not from "insider" knowledge given the potential issues making their locations known may cause (this is a well discussed issue).SimonPoole (talk) 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Fixed --Bgirardot (talk) 17:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Simon, for the really helpful feedback. I agree that caution should be taken when mapping domestic violence shelters. Some make their presence well-known and are already on Google Maps/have their addresses posted online, in which case they should also be on OSM. Insider knowledge shouldn't be used to map these shelters. I will change the tag description to clarify that. I'm not sure of the difference between menstrual pad and sanitary pad in various cultures and would love to hear from others as well. --Courtney Clark Courtney.m.clark 13:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I think there are numerous points where mappers have decided that mapping womens' (domestic violence) shelters was rarely appropriate on OSM. Care needs to be taken in construing the meaning for low counts of such facilities on OSM. Probably also many people are aware of their approximate rather than precise locations, which also militates against mapping them. Some other things which may or may not be appropriate to map: combined school/social care centres for young mothers of school age (local one to me is under threat); sexual health clinics. AFIAK most Family Planning clinics in UK are now within GP surgeries/health centres, but there may be a residual number of standalone services: many of which were not at permanent locations. I'll check with friend, who specialises in this field of medicine, when I see her next. SK53 (talk) 19:11, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


menstrual_pad_dispenser (or rather menstrual_pad) should be a vending value for SimonPoole (talk) 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Fixed --Bgirardot (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
btw sanitary_pad might be culturally slightly less touchy SimonPoole (talk)
Ok, not up to me really, I think it is intended to be clear and easily translated. I think it was used in MapKibera, but everyone can see the suggestion and I'll leave it up to those with more experience.--Bgirardot (talk) 19:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Shop type for breast-feeding related stuff

Should there be a dedicated tag for shops selling breastfeeding related stuff? Joost schouppe (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Breast feeding locations

I recently found this mobile phone program mamamap. It shows places close by for breast feeding in private. Usually those are shops like pharmacies, drug stores or restaurants who will provide one of their rooms for it. I thought this could be mapped in OSM as well with an additional tag to the shop. --Datendelphin (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Abortion clinics

A number of points came up on IRC with respect to these, which may make tagging these complicated;

  • In general I would suggest healthcare=pregnancy_advice_service as usually such clinics (e.g., [W] BPAS or {{WikiIcon|Planned_Parenthood|PPFA]) offer a range of advisory and counselling services, and medical terminations are a subset of their activities.
  • In some countries (Ireland was mentioned) both medical terminations and providing advice as to how to obtain them is illegal. Mapping facilities in such jurisdiction may be awkward for OSM, and for the facilities themselves.
  • OSM is a diverse community: some accept medical terminations (whether for personal or medical reasons), others may regard all terminations for whatever cause as abhorrent. Please be aware of this, and do not assume that everyone else shares your values. SK53 (talk) 16:10, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Minor note w.r.t. Ireland. There are essential no "abortion clinics" per se. 90%+ of Irish abortion clinics happen in England. The law I mentioned was about providing information about abortion clinics in England, potentially making a raw planet dump illegal to provide in Ireland Rorym (talk) 16:38, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't think healthcare=pregnancy_advice_service is appropriate, since some pregnancy advice services (in Ireland) do not provide abortions (or give out abortion information). I presume other countries will have pregnancy advice services which also do not provide terminations. So by adding healthcare:speciality=abortion would specify that this place does that. --Rorym (talk) 10:08, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
My point still stands, medical terminations (abortion in medicine refers to spontaneous abortions), are a procedure not a specialty. In well-regulated countries they will be carried out by Gynaecologists or Obstetricians. We should also recognise that in some countries such places may not be medically regulated at all. Specific legal aspects such as in Ireland do not necessarily need explicit tagging as the likely range of services can be deduced. SK53 (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you mean about terminations are not the main thing. I suppose that idea can come from the :speciality part of the tag, right? Since the speciality is pregnancy-related things, not terminations per se. Would you have any suggestion for something better? healthcare:provides=* maybe? So you'd tag an "abortion clinic" as maybe a healthcare:speciality=gynaecology (??) along with a healthcare:provides=abortion (using semi-colons to add all things it provides)
Minor point It's not outright illegal in Ireland to provide information about abortion available outside Ireland, but there are some restrictions which OSM cannot practically abide by.
Perhaps my confusing comes from the advice_service part of what you suggest. There are many "crisis pregnancy advice" services in Ireland. They don't do terminations (obv.), or other medical procedures, instead it's just advice or counselling, so they seem very different from (say) a clinic in England which has doctors, and medical facilities. Some will never provide information about an abortion. Some (e.g. [W] IFPA will. I was wondering about how to tag that difference (religion=christian + denomination=catholic in the case of Cura, since it's run by the Catholic Church)
-- Rorym (talk) 12:29, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Have there been any decisions on how this should be tagged? It doesn't look like those tags have been used much. Based on your discussion it seems like healthcare=clinic is appropriate considering centers usually provide services other than abortion. Following that healthcare=specialty:gynecology (+ other specialties?) would be an appropriate designation. I think there should be a way to differentiate between the abortion services that facilities are able to provide. In the U.S. facilities can usually provide non-surgical, surgical, or both. The distinction is important because in some cases it depends on how far a women is along, what the facility is able to provide, and (in the U.S.) states laws regarding legal procedures. In that case, healthcare:provides=surgical abortion; medical abortion
-- mdefratti, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


Probably the female=* is also important and not mentioned.

And we can clean the tagging errors: --ImreSamu (talk) 19:51, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Add more tags from the babycare proposal

This page contains some tags like stroller=* and baby_feeding that still seem to be missing on the main page here Joost schouppe (talk) 10:11, 30 June 2018 (UTC)