Talk:Limitations on mapping private information

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What is the rationale for suggesting that names on graves not be mapped? For instance it is common in Ireland for there to be a large detailed map of every grave in a churchyard to enable people to find them. Locating graves in even quite small cemeteries is non-trivial. Information on gravestones is widely used for historical and linguistic studies too. I don't particularly forsee people mapping graveyards in earnest on OSM, but it seems an odd thing to suggest is personal data.SK53 (talk) 22:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for opening the discussion. The line about cemetery=grave was reflecting an old tagging discussion, which is consolidated on the linked page with the line "Only significant graves are to be mapped". I already moved that item down from a "don't" to a "shouldn't". I see quite a difference in having a printed map at the entrance of a cemetery compared to a machine-readable database. Similarly, in Germany all the names of the inhabitants of an apartment block are printed on the doorbell panel, the same people would object to have that collected in a database. I'd assume many people would object to have their deceased relatives listed; though I don't know the legal side. Legislation if and how long privacy is protected after death is probably country-dependant.--Polarbear w (talk) 23:47, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Either everyone has a 'right to privacy after death' in which case not only significant graves, but famous people plaques saying "xxx lived here" would be no go for OSM. Furthermore any notion of such a concept is fairly alien in Anglo-Saxon legal jurisdictions. The examples I refer to for scholarly study include : lichenometry using date on gravestones; linguistic studies which similarly use the language on the graves and date of death to determine historical boundaries of languages. The collection of such data is painstaking and awkward, sharing of such data is of value to scholars and people interested in their ancestry. A company which publishes maps of Irish Graveyards enables searches of data online[1]. SK53 (talk) 11:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Maybe this case could be softened to "respect the rules in the respective country". Or dropped completely.--Polarbear w (talk) 13:47, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Private Infrastructure

I guess it is already covered, but it might be worth spelling out explicitly: there was some work in Nepal where the presence of an indoor toilet facility was mapped for each house. Clearly information such as this relates to the socio-economic status of the inhabitants and in my view should not be collected in OSM. SK53 (talk) 22:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)



A final point is that European GDPR which come into force later this year, potentially makes adding personal data to OSM a serious offence in EU countries. So certain types of data are likely to be redacted anyway. SK53 (talk) 22:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

I think that the point of this page is to reduce work on adding private information and work to remove his private information - private information is already removed from OSM once spotted. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)