Talk:Tag:sport=scuba diving

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Please merge this pages to scuba_diving:


and also the corresponding discussion pages. Thanks, --Markus 18:37, 18 July 2011 (BST)


Please can somebody translate this page to German? Thanks, --Markus 08:46, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


We are looking for specific diving-icons for:


Best is SVG. Thanks for help! --Markus 13:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


Merged with:

and parts of Proposed_features/scuba_diving and de:Switzerland/DiveSpots

--Markus (talk) 12:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Divespot : sport=* non-physical tag

sport=scuba_diving => Divespot does not work. There needs to be a tag like leisure=divespot. For example right now if I want to tag a diving club that's club=sport + sport=scuba_diving and obviously that's not a divespot. --AndiG88 (talk) 11:08, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

So sport=scuba_diving should be left for diving spots? RicoZ (talk) 12:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
We can't do this, it wouldn't be consistent with the other sport=* tags. However we should keep it documented that it was used in the past by some mappers as a diving spot. It seems there is a more detailed scheme on DE:Switzerland/DiveSpots --Jgpacker (talk) 11:40, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
The first thing I read in DE:Switzerland/DiveSpots is sport=scuba_diving is a divespot. Unfortunately I have no clue what it means "non-physical tag"? RicoZ (talk) 12:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Non-physical means that it doesn't describes a place. It describes an attribute of a place (in this case, the sport practiced there). Basically, we can't restrict the usage of sport=scuba_diving only for diving spots. I can't read german, so I can't say for sure what the page I linked above says, but I saw it also describes a key called divespot=* --Jgpacker (talk) 12:44, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
So applying it to a beach or rock should be fine but not to a node without any other attributes? divespot=* in that page is proposed to mark particular underwater points of interest such as walls, caves, water tubes with depth and other attributes to create an underwater map. "parking" somewhat doesn't fit into this scheme. sport=scuba_diving was supposed to be the divespot marker to be displayed at lower zoom levels. RicoZ (talk) 13:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
The problem of tagging sport=scuba_diving in a single node without other tags is that you can't guarantee it's a place for diving. It may be a scuba diving sport club, scuba diving shop, or something along these lines. Though in this kind of context (in an underwater map), I believe it would be guaranteed. --Jgpacker (talk) 13:22, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Wondering, is eg sport=football used for shops with football wear or club houses? RicoZ (talk) 15:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
They may be, see shop=sports (the wiki was just changed, but doesn't change the actual situation) and club=*. --Jgpacker (talk) 16:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
The overview of sport=* seems to be quite clear in the meantime that it should identify the actual sport sites and not shops clubs or whatever else? If so than I don't think the actual situation is too much of a burden for scuba_diving - the default meaning should be a dive spot and the other meanings will be obvious from other attributes or as last resort from the name. RicoZ (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree that an object with sport=scuba_diving and no other tags is very likely to be a dive spot, and if other tags are present, then they should be analyzed too. Cheers --Jgpacker (talk) 19:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
So it would be a good idea to fix the introduction of this article to say "sport=scuba_diving" should be used only for dive spots, especially as the description already lists amenity=dive_centre and shop=scuba_diving which would be much better for the other purposes? RicoZ (talk) 09:31, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
But then the whole system of sport tags does not work. How do you tag a shop=sport that sells scuba diving and surfing grear? Also how do you tag a club=sport? Do you want to make a new special tag club=scuba_diving_club? --AndiG88 (talk) 13:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Where is it clear that sport=* should identify the actual sport sites? The first section is a dozen leisure tags that are supposed to be used in combination. --AndiG88 (talk) 13:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Done: sport=scuba_diving is a diving spot. --Markus (talk)


Is snorkeling supposed to go under scuba diving as a type? If so, I only see a listing for "apnoe" which I've never heard of--is that an acronym? non-English?

Apnoe is from Greek and is used for diving holding your breath so it is not a good match for snorkeling. I think it would be ok to add separate entries for snorkeling to scuba_diving:type:*, perhaps surface_snorkeling and advanced_snorkeling? However both apnoe and snorkeling actually contradict the meaning of "scuba" so I am not sure how much sense it makes to lump all this together. RicoZ (talk) 12:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
I guess if there is more interest in tagging snorkeling, it will get dealt with in a better way. For now, I separated out snorkeling on the list on the main page. People might also be using the amenity=dive_centre tag, and not tagging specific scuba diving types on those. Neuhausr (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

"Snorkeling" you can do everywhere - even in the bathtub or swimming pool. I recommend not to use it in combination with scuba_diving. (ok, same for scuba_diving, but...) --Markus (talk) 05:47, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


I suggest to precise scuba_diving:current=*

by scuba_diving:current:speed=#: speed of the maximum current in knots.

--Markus (talk) 05:39, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Depth ranges

Current values used for the depth tag do seem to be mostly integers only, without units. I assume we are following the same process as for Speed_limits (values in meters, except otherwise stated). My question is mostly related to dive spots where the feature of interest (wreck, cliff, ...) will start at a certain depth range, all the way down to max depth of the feature (eg. 36m to 80m for the "HAVEN" a wreck close to Portofino, IT).

Currently I would assume :

0. scuba_diving:depth="average depth" combined with scuba_diving:maxdepth=*,

issue: we still lack the minimum depth information.

Alternatively we could use:

1. scuba_diving:depth=min/avg/max or min/max (or what ever separator is more common)

issue: not explicit, scuba_diving:maxdepth=* becomes redundant

2. add a scuba_diving:mindepth=* and combine with scuba_diving:depth=* and scuba_diving:maxdepth=*

My guess is that data consumers would work best with #2

--Billyonthemountain (talk) 15:06, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Differences between underground scuba_diving:type:* ?

What are the real differences between :

tag count

--Pyrog (talk) 07:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

This is a problem from using the ambigious and redundant *:type=*. You can see all sorts of values mixed up under scuba_diving:type:*=*. A "sinkhole" is a kind of cave. "speleology" would be diving for the purpose/function/content for cave science, similar to "archaelogy" and "biology". Now I'm no diver: "cavern diving" refers to the overhang related to a cave, very shallow and close to the entrance, so that there's daylight and a visible exit; "cave diving" is deep into the cave within -- dark, maze-like, and very confined space -- where you are surrounded all around, more than only overhead. -- Kovposch (talk) 09:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC)