Talk:Tag:man made=water well

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Do water_well suite for water mecanical pumping for water_works (water treatement to make public water drinkable). I'm currently tagging the local public water network near Cognac (France) and i don't know how to tag the zone where water is pumped from the ground :

i watch osm real example and both are used.

-- User:Padorange 28 th june 2010


But what with ornamental historic man made water wells that have no water at all ? The humanitarian layer sends people up there. Example : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2407245156#map=19/51.22053/4.40025&layers=H

Difference between pump:status=broken and pump:status=out_of_order

Hi,

in my opinion the value out_of_order is not really needed because no pump is "just" out of order. People use a well unless it is broken or it is locked. For that reason I would remove this tag from the documentation.

Or is there any point I miss which explains the use of out_of_order?

Michael

Change pump:status to operational_status

The use of operational_staus seems to be much more common in OSM than pump:status as it can be seen on taginfo. Maybe this could be changed aswell.

Michael

Stepwells

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepwell for an account of these. India and neighbouring countries have many of them, some are important monuments.

How best to tag these? I could see a new value, 'stepwell' or 'step_well' in addition to 'water_well' (the first is probably an accepted English word). Or consider a 'type=stepwell' kv combo in addition the current value?

Currently there are five instances of man_made=stepwell according to taginfo (at least a couple are down to me). However there probably are more marked on OSM just as wells, or as monuments or similar.

Indigomc (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Many of the examples on the wikipedia page, from India, show large bodies of water in the center. The high-water line should be mapped as an area of natural=water (or landuse=reservoir perhaps?). It could be reasonable to use a new tag such as man_made=stepwell to map the entire feature, including the surrounding stairs. --Jeisenbe (talk) 06:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I think many of the examples do show them in the normal state, with low levels. If the high water line is an extreme condition then it may not sense to draw that - but it may make sense to have also a high-water line (in practice many people add such a line for ordinary earth-base lakes but mark the land within it as 'wetland', which is not really correct). Indigomc (talk)

Are buckets an actual pumping mean?

Radbrunnen in St. Anna.JPG

Hi, one of the examples depicts a historic well with a wheel allowing to lower and rise a bucket to get water.
Although such a situation wasn't defined in Proposed_features/Pumping_proposal, the bucket could be an actual and simple pumping mean.
I don't see any problem to add pump_mechanism=bucket and use pump=manual for such ones. Fanfouer (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

A bucket on a rope is certainly not a pump. Normally this situation is tagged as man_made=water_well + pump=no - and this combination is already rendered as a bucket by the Humanitarian map style, e.g.: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4918550281#map=19/7.20648/-8.97983&layers=H . If you want to specify that there is a permanently-attached bucket and rope you could add a new tag like bucket=yes. --Jeisenbe (talk) 23:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Why a bucket on a rope isn't a pump while ball on a rope is? Fanfouer (talk) 23:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Because the rope pump is being used to pump water through a tube using small discs attached along it, so its basicallly like a piston pump which is used to move a fluid by changing the pressure.
But a bucket is just being used to draw water out of a well. If I take a bucket to a river to draw water, I am not "pumping" water out of the river. If I fill up a bucket with water on the ground floor from a cistern, and carry it upstairs for a bath, I have not pumped water upstairs. --Jeisenbe (talk) 00:53, 17 January 2021 (UTC)