Way as a node?
- You are right. I changed the page to way. --Markus 10:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- The whole point of a "discussion page" is that the matter is disccussed and a consensus is reached. This needs to happen before changing a long-standing convention (>4 years). Please revert your change to the main wiki page until such time, thanks. (if you don't, I will). If you want to do something about changing it, the first thing that has to happen is that the change be put up as a proposal. --Hamish 11:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- The "be bold" principle of wiki editing also applies. It's good to discuss stuff first if it's a major change. It may be even be *so* major that we'd want to go through a tedious voting process (unlikely!) How major a wiki page change is, can be debated of course. But I think this change is quite minor, and ...you discussed it. -- Harry Wood 12:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- JOSM presets only allow slipway to be applied to a node. Seems a consensus is needed so that the element page and JOSM agree. Dahc 19:45, 30 June 2011 (BST)
The current insistence of this wiki page that thus must be a node seems illogical to me (and therefore not how I am mapping things in OSM). I propose that we change leisure=slipway to be normally mapped as a way. However other taggings may be appropriate in some circumstances: area (e.g. on particularly wide slipways) or node (e.g. where the details are not known/mappable). --Fluteflute 09:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- So the page now says node/way.
- I noticed recently that JOSM validator complained about my slipway way, which seemed odd. It needs syncing with this change I guess.
- node/way/area labels on the wiki have become something of an irrelevance over the years as people have stepped forward to argue that any tag could be mapped as a node way or area. Does nobody want to argue that a slipway could also be an area? only a matter of time.
- -- Harry Wood 12:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- Osmose (https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/) still thinks that leisure=slipway should be a node rather than a way (or at the very least that it shouldn't be combined with highway=service and service=slipway). Would be good to provide more clarity about how to map such instances...
- Some examples:
- * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/850521872
- * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/850525392
- --Dónal (talk) 09:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Many slipways, especially the vehicle=no track + winch and Travel-lift kind are at commercial shipyards and not recreational. So is leisure=* really appropriate for all of them? --Hamish 10:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- "leisure" is old stuff from old OSM history.
- I prefer this:
harbour=slipway + harbour:slipway:type=* ( manually | by car | cable winch | crane ) + harbour:slipway:maxload=##,# (tons)
- --Markus 10:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, yes it is... Would be good to capture that. --Dónal (talk) 09:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- harbour=splipway is barely used and not better. Some slipways are not in harbours. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Some slipways have restrictions on the type of boats that can be launched, for example, the Six Mile Landing Boat Ramp (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1462038408) has a sign limiting the motors to 10 horsepower or less.
canoe launching facility
That's why I got on here. There are dozens of canoe launches in my area. I've been mapping them as slipways and naming them "canoe launch".
Also, I need to know how to map a canoe path. We have a few of those around here. No, it's not something made up; there are official signs designating a canoe trail. Kirbert 13 May 2020
- How about highway=path and canoe=designated? See OSM tags for routing/Access restrictions for the default access for path in your country and add some specific tags to prevent for instance bicyclists from using it. --- Emvee (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
I also have a number of "boat launches" like this that the state parks department calls "primitive" launches, "hand" launches, or "canoe" launches. Some of these you can use a 4x4 and light trailer to launch a drift boat, some are just dirt where you can portage a canoe. I don't think "vehicle=no" is clear enough.
This tag is also used on ways and as areas
The Overpass query
way["leisure"="slipway"](if: is_closed()); out count;
reveals that currently, the tag is used on 1178 closed ways (= areas) and 6701 ways.
I'd say it also makes sense: Some may want to map it like a short service road because it appears like that. Some may want to map it as an area to record the true dimensions of it, f.e. for a very detailed map.
- It is poor practice to use the same tag for areas and lines. A closed way then becomes ambiguous: is it an area or a line? In this case, it's reasonable to map a slipway as a line (though a node is often good enough), but mapping a closed way for an area is a mistake. If mappers wish to show the area of a slipway, I would recommend a tag like area:leisure=slipway, in the same format as area:highway=* --Jeisenbe (talk) 14:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Is highway=service and service=slipway valid ?
While the service slipway tag is not in this documentation it can be found on the German how to map page. > Der Weg wird als highway=service + service=slipway und der Endpunkt als leisure=slipway erfasst. Since a lot of QA tools flag this I wanted to hear some opinions --Ferdinand0101 (talk) 13:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- How it is used? In general QA tools complaining about something does not mean that tagging is certainly invalid, false positives may always happen Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Probably good to document its use here as well with over 4.000 uses. It is already mentioned on service=*. service=slipway should be used as a refinement of the highway=service that leads to the water. We should warn mappers that it does not replace leisure=slipway, which must still be tagged on the last node of the way, or on the way itself (the former method seems preferred). --JeroenHoek (talk) 09:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)