Talk:Key:socket

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Swiss sockets

I started mapping EV charging stations in Switzerland. There are 4 types of sockets which are only used in Switzerland (T13, T15, T23, T25; defined in SEV 1011). Up to now, I tagged them with socket:ch_t13. Should we keep this naming scheme or should we use something like socket:sev1011_t13? More information about SEV 1011 is available on Wikipedia. --Zagch (talk) 15:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I'd vote for socket:sev1011_t13. --Geonick (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. I went ahead and used/documented socket:sev1011_*. --Zagch (talk) 14:58, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Tethered plugs

A key difference between sites offering EV charging is if a socket is offered and you are expected to bring your own cable, or if a cable (typically tethered) with a plug is available that can be plugged into an EV charge socket. This tag is used to describe the properties of the charging station, not the vehicle, so there should arguably be an alternate key name of 'plug'. --Pink Duck (talk) 15:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Read also Talk:Tag:amenity=charging station#charging cable availability
--Pyrog (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

NEMA 6-20p

This plug type is supported by some level 2 EVSE such as one here: https://duosidaevchargers.com/ so would be useful to list

socket:<type>:voltage

Would be useful, since not all charge stations with the same socket type provide the same voltage, and some charging stations provide a different voltage through different sockets (especially if the station offers both level2 and level3 charging).

socket:gb/t 20234

This is a Chinesse socket, but it is not yet in the list of sockets. Can I use this socket liket this?

Adding new sockets is no problem. But we should take care that keys don't use any special characters (no spaces or slashes, mostly lower case letters). I don't know all details about the Chinese sockets, but I found some pages referring to this connector as "GB/T" without a number - is this sufficient to identify it? If yes, I propose to use "socket:gbt". If not, "socket:gbt_20234". Mueschel (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

'How to map' section

This tag is a pre-tag and is only used in conjunction with a sub-tag. This makes it possible to use several values simultaneously.

What on earth does that mean?! Could a worked example be provided, especially as terms like 'pre-tag' and 'sub-tag' seem to be poorly defined in OSM? Thanks! :-) eteb3 (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Essentially it just says that the tag "socket" should not be used (this is necessary to state because the page is titled "Key:socket"). Only in combination with a socket type like "socket:type2" it makes a valid tag. But you are absolutely right, this statement should be clarified and made easier to understand. --Mueschel (talk) 11:09, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks - I've incorporated your explanation into the page. I feel this makes it possible to use several values simultaneously is still unclear. Also, would it be possible to give generic syntax? eg, it's not clear currently what the values of the tag are (I mean the 'v' side of k=v): the page appears to describe only the 'k' side of the equation. eteb3 (talk) 17:01, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
The page really needs a bit more text, it is very concise. The values are only described in the first table: --Mueschel (talk) 17:21, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Value: Count of available sockets, integral numeric. 	
Description: A count of the sockets of the specified type that can be used concurrently at that charging station.
Thanks. Last question - I assume the 'charging station' is an electric vehicle charging station, to charge the batteries. Always? Not necessarily? Could the same tags be used at a 'mains hook-up' giving shore-power for a boat? eg this https://www.tmpmarine.com/dockside-electric/power-pedestals-mini-boxes-accessories/marina-electrical-equipment/commodore-ss-power-pedestal-models-cd50200-cd100200.html eteb3 (talk) 17:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
It's not really the right place to discuss this, better ask in the forums or the mailing list. But yes, the tag is not restricted to cars. Just add which vehicles are allowed to charge, e.g. car=no; bicycle=yes; boat=yes --Mueschel (talk) 17:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Should units be included, e.g. kW, A?

Over half of the current featurea with socket:<type>:output have a value which includes kilowatts: kW, e.g. 22 kW or 50kw? Is this recommended? Should a space be used between the number and kW or not?

Also for socket:<type>:current sometimes A for Amperes is added, with or without a space. Is this necessary? --Jeisenbe (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)