Proposal:Dog off-leash area

Dog off-leash area
Proposal status:	Approved (active)
Proposed by:	Pjwebster
Tagging:	leisure=dog_park Data item
Applies to:	node area
Definition:	Designated area, with or without a fenced boundary, where dog-owners are permitted to exercise their pets unrestrained. See also Wikipedia:Dog park.
Statistics:
Rendered as:	dog icon
Draft started:
Proposed on:	2007-12-12
RFC start:	2009-11-30
Vote start:	2009-12-14
Vote end:	2009-12-28

The Feature Page for the approved proposal leisure=dog_park is located at [[1]]

Proposal

Rationale

To mark, pardon the pun, a dog "off-leash" area. As local legislation (QLD, Australia. May also be the case in other regions. IANALA) dictates that dogs are to be restrained at all times in most public parks, local council provides certain fenced off areas in which dog owners may exercise their pets unrestrained. These areas are usually within or adjacent to normal recreational parks and usually provide facilities for watering and cleaning up after dogs, and sometimes also include a doggy obstacle course

Related to

Leisure.

Rendering

A shade of green different to that of a normal park, or a dog-related icon within the bounds of the area. A stylised Scottish Terrier silhouette is suggested for the icon.

I agree. For an area i suggest a green area with my "dog's footprint" icons inside. For a node, only the icon.--Giardia 16:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Tag

Tag	Description
leisure=dog_park	Generic tag for a dog park area.
water=	Indicates whether watering facilities are available, and if you need to Bring Your Own Bowl
bags=	Indicates poop collection bags are provided at the facility
waste_disposal=	Indicates rubbish bins are provided

Icon

I would think of this as a node.

I propose this for the Icon:
Made by Giardia with Inkscape. License: Public Domain.--Giardia 16:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Usage

<tag k="leisure" v="dog_park"/>
<tag k="water" v="trough"/>
<tag k="water" v="tap"/>
<tag k="water" v="yes"/>
<tag k="water" v="no"/>
<tag k="bags" v="yes"/>
<tag k="bags" v="no"/>
<tag k="waste_disposal" v="yes"/>
<tag k="waste_disposal" v="no"/>

Suggested revisions / alternatives arising during voting

See Talk:Proposed features/Dog off-leash area#Collation of usage suggestions provided during voting

Comments

Comments moved to the Talk:Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area page.

Voting

Type "{{vote|yes/no}}" to approve/oppose this proposal and sign with your user name & date.

• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. and approve amenity=drinking_water instead of water=yes, and the use of the amenity=vending_machine in combination with vending=excrement_bags; moreover amenity=waste_basket is ok.--Giardia 13:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. for the "leisure=dog_park" itself. It's the 19th most common leisure tag so it seems obvious. water=* is an existing tag for bodies of water, don't abuse it this way. Also, "bags" is too general, use "dog_bags" or something. Finally, there is already amenity=waste_basket (and even dog_bin). So, I support documenting the main tag, I oppose all the other "usage" suggestions. Stevage 14:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal.. I don't like the water=* tag. FedericoCozzi 14:53, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. only for leisure=dog_park --fradeve11 18:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. only for leisure=dog_park. Instead of water, I'd rather consider amenity=watering_place and watering_place=yes (which are already used, and already rendered in specialized maps) or amenity=drinking_water (when you need to bring your own bowl). "bags" is too generic, while vending=excrement_bags is more specific and already used (add fee=no if appropriate). amenity=waste_basket would be more appropriate than waste_disposal=*. --Kaitu 16:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal.--Al3xius 19:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. only for leisure=dog_park The rest is either redundant or needs some rethinking. --turbodog 21:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I oppose this proposal. There already exists the key animal=dogarea with exactly the same meaning. But at the moment there is no english translation. BTW dog=designated will be the best. --Vsandre 21:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. This tag is very usefull and more used and documentated than animal=dogarea--Faber 22:21, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I oppose this proposal. This proposal is replacing very many established tags, but only for a few limited areas. Also there are people mentioning that the main purpose already are covered by other tags. In all, this tag should be voted down, and if needed reworked to correct whats missing (though I cannot see what). --Skippern 22:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

leisure=dogpark exists 104 times in OSMDoc. animal=dogarea exists 4 times. It makes no sense for this *not* to be accepted. The animal keys ought to be re-evaluated too - looks like they might be used to tag areas within a zoo? I should point out as well that dog=* is also very commonly used. I guess dog=yes and dog=designated should indicate areas within a park that are signed as being ok for dogs, whereas leisure=dogpark should be used when there are specific features like fencing, poo bags etc. (I guess leisure=dogpark means human=no). Stevage 05:56, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, then we still return to my first reason for rejection, though somebody need to tel those germans to change animal=dogarea. The setup and definition of this tag needs a serious rework, but refering to usages of this tag contra animal=dogarea will only help in getting this passed (when the additional tags have been cleaned up). It is better to combine it with usages of existing tags (which are likely to be used) instead of inventing a series of new tags (which are likely to be forgotten/ignored). --Skippern 09:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

• Error creating thumbnail: I oppose this proposal. dog=designated or dog=yes is more flexible and fits better in more cases then dog parks. I think that a dog=designated is off-leash. -- Gnonthgol 11:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. only for leisure=dog_park The additional features (bags, water) need more thinking. Jrouquie 14:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. But I also agree with previous voters that water=yes is bad. Pfr 11:49, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I oppose this proposal. no need, it is already to mark these areas (amenity=vending_machine and vending=excrement_bags exists) --Skyper 12:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
• I 'd look at the history of this proposal. leisure=dog_park is obvious and no one has shown a convincing reason not to tag it as such. Also it doesn't overlap with other leisure tags. Since the proposal was written (in 2007!) tags amenity=watering_place and amenity=waste_basket and vending=excrement_bags have gained popularity, and they're better mapped as such as separate nodes inside the dog_park area, to be more in line with established use elsewhere. Alv 13:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. -- but water is already mappable with amenity=drinking_water (use type for different tabs).Dieterdreist 22:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

• Maybe, besides the vote for the main tag "leisure=dog_park", we can add a preference for the usage suggestions provided, as i did.--Giardia 21:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

• Error creating thumbnail: I approve this proposal. → leisure=dog_park with revision to parameters. --Ceyockey 23:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

• Parameters (only 1)
  • large_dog=designated and small_dog=designated; omitted if there is no designation.
• Useful combinations
  • amenity=waste_basket
  • amenity=watering_place
  • amenity=vending_machine + vending=excrement_bags + fee=yes / fee=no
  • surface=*
  • barrier=fence + fence_type=*
  • area=yes

--- Finale result 12 yes to 4 no