How would you tag poles and lines that are not used for power transportation?
How would you tag poles and lines that are not used for power transportation, but telecommunications (telephones wires, optical fibers,...) often mounted on wooden poles in rural areas? --HB9DTX (talk) 14:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- Currently there is no unified tagging scheme for telecommunications or other utilities overhead street infrastructure. But you could always use man_made=utility_pole as a default. - Huttite (talk) 22:54, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Why must a tower tag be used when a pole is used on High Voltage lines?
Why must a tower tag be used when wooden poles are used to support High Voltage lines over 50 kV? In New Zealand most 66 kV power distribution lines and some 110 kV power transmission lines are carried on wooden poles. Why do these need to be mapped as towers? Doesn't this violate the Map Features requirement to map the real features on the ground? - Huttite (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with you and in France I use to map wooden (or even concrete) poles carrying 150/90/63 kv power lines as power=pole. As far as I remember, it was intended for render or light data distinguishing. It confuse design or structure with feature. A past proposal was written in this direction but was refused (not only on this point). Fanfouer (talk) 19:21, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- I also agree with you. Poles are usually encountered on 115 or 69 kV lines in my country, the Philippines, and those lines form the subtransmission grids operated either the national grid operator (National Grid Corporation of the Philippines), electric utilities (Meralco, Davao Light, Visayas Electric Company, to name a few), and some provincial electric cooperatives (like the Batangas II and I Electric Cooperative/BATELEC I/II in Batangas, Tarlac I and II Electric Cooperative or TARELCO-I/II in Tarlac, to nane a few, as many cooperatives rely on NGCP lines to supply power to their substationa). I used to tag such poles on 115 and 69 kV as towers, but I changed my tagging for such poles and I am gradually retagging poles on 115 or 69 kV lines from power=tower to power=pole, except for structures composed of three poles supporting one phase conductor per pole (considered triple monopolar towers) or two or three poles with [a] cross-arm[s] supporting the phase conductors using insulator strings (considered H-frame towers). I laid out a draft proposal to extend power pole tagging and increasw the voltage threshold to 138 kV from 50 kV, but it still do not gain community support or suggestions. I hope that my proposal for more elaborate power pole tagging will gain support in order to start voting for approval, but in case suggestions arise, my proppsal can be revised while still in proposal stage. --TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 08:55, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Stuff the whole label into ref=?
- Stuff the whole thing into ref="軟埤枝56 G8152FC56"?
- Use name="軟埤枝56", ref="G8152FC56"?
- Use ref="軟埤枝56", name="G8152FC56"?
If the name were to be rendered on the screen, all parts should show to be accurate. So I chose to stuff it all into ref=. (Well at least it all renders in JOSM.) Jidanni (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi :) IMHO don't tag for render.
- If several pieces of information are seen on poles, they should go in different tags. If not, someone will have to split name and ref every time he look at the data.
- Use name="軟埤枝56", ref="G8152FC56" seems to be the best solution.
- Furthermore, in Europe, a name on poles often refers to the carried line (it's the same on all poles). Thus it shouldn't go in pole's name=* tag but on the line's one. Fanfouer (talk) 20:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)