Proposal:Healthcare 1.1

Healthcare 1.1
Proposal status:	Voting (under way)
Proposed by:	SafetyIng
Tagging:	healthcare=* Data item
Applies to:
Definition:	Cleanup healthcare tagging after healthcare proposal 2010
Statistics:
Draft started:	2022-10-02
RFC start:	2022-10-02
Vote start:	2022-11-05
Vote end:	2022-11-19

Proposal

• Deprecate amenity=healthcare, amenity=clinic, amenity=dentist, amenity=hospital, amenity=doctors, amenity=doctors, amenity=pharmacy
• Deprecate amenity=nursing_home and amenity=retirement_home, because they have already been replaced by amenity=social_facility + social_facility=*
• Deprecate health_facility:type=*, health specialty:*=*, office=therapist, office=physician, office=nurse and office=nursing_service
• Introduce the existing and approved healthcare=* tagging as a "main feature", as envisaged in the first healthcare proposal in 2010.

Rationale

With the 2010 proposal, there is a double-tagging option for health facilities. Some of the editors once included it and then discarded it. This leads sometimes to confusion by mappers.

To tidy up this situation, I propose the following changes. Likewise, editors, mappers and data users will then have a uniform consensus for further development.

In an article on community.osm.org, the distribution levels between amenity and healthcare were compared accordingly and graphics were posted.

Tagging

In the tagging itself, there will be no major changes in either option A or B. Only the introduction of amenity=healthcare, if necessary.

Editors, Data consumers, Renderers

This proposal has a medium-term impact on editors, data consumers and renderers. This proposal encourages them to support healthcare=* in the short term. Renderers should stop supporting deprecated tags in the medium to long term after a corresponding transition phase.

Features/Pages affected

• Key:amenity
• Tag:amenity=doctors
• Tag:amenity=dentist
• Tag:amenity=hospital
• Tag:amenity=clinic
• Tag:amenity=nursing home
• Tag:amenity=retirement home
• Tag:social facility=nursing home
• Tag:social facility=group home
• Tag:amenity=social facility

External discussions

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/doppeltagging-amenity-doctors-healthcare-doctor/2602

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• I approve this proposal. -- Something B (talk) 20:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Unbeatable101 (talk) 21:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Mcliquid (talk) 21:19, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I oppose this proposal. The tags amenity=hospital, amenity=clinic and amenity=dentist are extremely well established and used by all kinds of maps and applications of Openstreetmap data. These features are also clearly amenities: they are an important service that you want to have nearby in your town, and all residents and visitors will need to know the location of the closest hospital or dentist to get medical services. There is no benefit to changing to a different key, and re-tagging millions of objects while re-writing many applications would have a clear negative cost. --Jeisenbe (talk) 21:25, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I oppose this proposal. The healthcare tagging is not yet ready for general rollout. In particular, healthcare:speciality=* needs to be split into individual tags or you will end up with long, unreadable strings for hospitals with many different departments. -- Eiskalt-glasklar (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Izolight (talk) 21:39, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I oppose this proposal. For the reasons stated by Joseph Eisenberg on the tagging list[1], that these tags "are extremely well established and used by all kinds of maps and applications of Openstreetmap data. --ZeLonewolf (talk) 21:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I oppose this proposal. Changing such deeply established tags is a bad idea. --Chillly (talk) 21:54, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• I oppose this proposal. If something must be deprecated, then I would rather deprecate healthcare=hospital and stop ongoing mechanical edit by iD asking to add it to well tagged hospitals. Rationale is completely missing rationale why better established standard tag is supposed to be deprecated, rather than new one which is just pointlessly being double tagged. It is not the first attempt to deprecate this popular tags, and many people commented in the past about how they are not fans of this kind of deprecations of heavily used tags. Not sure why proposal author thought that this deprecation idea has widespread support. See Proposed features/training for latest case. --Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

And fixing stuff like https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2021-December/063301.html would be a better first step. Or finish cleanup of tags deprecated with very good reasons. Or propose to deprecate tags which are NOT among the most heavily used ones. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

• I oppose this proposal. This proposal will replace well established tags such as amenity=dentist with healthcare=dentist with no gain. --Fabi2 (talk) 22:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)