Talk:Tag:office=security

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Office versus amenity

RTFM, why do you think having this as an office instead of an amenity fits better? Both have about the same usage and in my opinion a security is an amenity along the lines of police. As in a "useful and important facilities for visitors and residents." Compared to something like a lawyers or NGO office. Where it's a private company (not part of the public good) providing a service for money. So id like to know your rationalization for going with this over the amenity tag. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't think it fits better, I just documented an already used tag. Compare with https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=security - seems people like to name it an office if it's an office. There are even some which would like to call it a "building" : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dsecurity_booth. I personally tend to use the one which contains the most information with the least number of components. But another question : why isn't police a "government" ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:government (as it's usually an office run by the government). And the usage is with 25 619 entries quite high. [user:rtfm] Rtfm (talk) 17:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Unclear

"An office for private security guards" - is it office of company providing security guard services? Is it an office where security guards work (rest/watch CCTV/etc)? Or is it a place where you may hire security guards? Or is it used for all this different purposes? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Good point, think this applies to several "office types", so probably a namespace would make sense, for example :
  • *:service=*
  • *:hire=*
- Other ideas what could be offered by offices in general ?
Rtfm Rtfm (talk) 18:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
One good case is office=insurance that mixes internal offices of insurances companies, where clients are not entering with places where you may buy insurance. For the first case office=company would be better (if for some reason type of company should be tagged - add also something like company=insurance), for the second shop=insurance would work far better. I see no reason to use namespaces. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:35, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Entrance guard post

How to tag the building that visitors entering the facility must talk to the guard at the window before driving their car in?

@Jidanni: Would be off-topic here. This tag is supposed to be the office of guards, similar to estate management. You would go there for arranging permits, personnels, barriers, lost and found, etc. Guards usually sign and rest there outside of their post. Non-military checkpoints, security guard booths, and supervision needs to be further discussed and worked on elsewhere. Kovposch (talk) 01:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
@Kovposch: Well yes, one would park their car, walk into their office (which is located at the perimeter), apply for a permit. Then for the rest of the month just flash your permit at them without getting out of your car. Anyway it would be great to know where elsewhere this is discussed. Jidanni (talk) 08:06, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Images used

What's with the photos of security guards? Kovposch (talk) 01:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Look OK to me. Jidanni (talk) 08:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)