User talk:Mateusz Konieczny/Archive 2

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File information request on my "talk page"

Hello,

please look at the the "file information page" and the comment there: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Wintec_wbt-202.jpg . All you ask for is there. May I ask why you ask?

BR, Michael. --MichaelK (talk) 10:01, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

@MichaelK: Which is license of that file? Is it available on some open license? If yes, how it may be confirmed? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Question on my "talk page"

Hi Mateusz, the file https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Green_red_vertical.png is used by a hiking trail. The relation is https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/76936 ralley66 (talk) 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ralley66: Thanks! I put note on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Green_red_vertical.png Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:58, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
@Ralley66: I also proposed https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Document_wiki:symbol_use_-_proposed_bot_edit to avoid such potentially mistaken deletions Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: file not deleted, similar files where I requested deletion are now without {{Delete}} and with note about situation, I proposed solution to avoid this problem and confusion in future Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:28, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


File:Navigps_on_helmet.jpg

Thanks Mateusz, I've now added a license to File:Navigps_on_helmet.jpg. I still have this bike helmet from 14 years ago, but unfortunately the Navi GPS is no longer working, which is sad.

--Stumbles (talk) 10:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Resolved: Great Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

File license

I'm the author of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Camera-example.jpg file. I released it as Public Domain. I don't know legal requirements to do that. I just make a comment on the image file. Feel free to modify it accordingly,

Thanks

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Ulfm

Hi Mateusz, User Abunai is actually Ulfm. He has been killed in January 2012. Maybe Thomas, Michael or Bekri can help here. All three are still active, I saw Thomas and Bekri yesterday during the on-line pub-meeting. See also event where the foto has been taken --ToniE (talk) 13:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@ToniE:! Thanks for info! I excluded this accounts from detector of problematic images. It is really sad that it happened :( Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: not sure how to progress here, I linked this info on user talk page and file talk page so it will not be lost Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


entrance for emergency_ward_entrance

Hello, thanks for clarifying. You are more experienced than me, so may I ask - the wiki only says entrance=yes, but if I find a case where entrance=main is more appropriate, can I use it or is there a risk of breaking some applications like StreetComplete? Thanks --Pippo6 (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pippo6: - I would not worry too much about breaking software and care primarily about correct data. Good point that entrance=main may be preferable, I made an edit - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:emergency%3Demergency_ward_entrance&diff=2284920&oldid=2284590 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Missing file information for Flyer_tn.png

Hello, Mateusz.

Thanks for your message. I have updated the license of this image as you suggested: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Flyer_tn.png

Yes, I was the creator of that image. It's a PNG export of a OSM flyer in Spanish that I composed with LaTeX: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/5a/Osm_flyer_spanish.pdf

Regards.

Thanks! Responded on the talk page with an additional request Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

File:Mappa-castelleone-di-suasa-20080420.jpg

It is an old screenshot from OSM and uploaded by myself. Regards, --accurimbono (talk) 09:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Then I fixed this page @Accurimbono: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Re: Missing file information (File:S-Bahn Österreich alt.png)

Hello,

I used a small version of the wikipedia upload by another user: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S-Bahn_Wien&oldid=133352236#/media/Datei:S-Bahn_Wien.svg

What do I need to do here to add that Info to the file (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:S-Bahn_Österreich_alt.png)?

KR Emergency99 (talk) 10:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

@Emergency99: I marked it as a copy/duplicate of Wikimedia Commons file Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Links in Wikiapiary

Hi,

regarding https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/599#issuecomment-1066556164, you have to change the setting "Data" from "Pages" to something like "Page Queue". The setting is not reflected in the URL, thus you can not link to the plot directly.

Cheers, --Tigerfell This user is member of the wiki team of OSM (Let's talk) 13:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tigerfell: I edited my comment there Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

File:Grimm - season5 - chapter4 1.jpg

Hello, the file was a screenshot that I did of the chapter. In this case I don't know which license woudl be the correct one.

@Cronoser: Looking at it, probably we need some fair use for that. It seems that there is nothing substantial you can do here, sorry for a false alarm. File:Lupin tv series s1e3.jpg is in the same situation, I edited it to add category that I excluded from this complaints. Sorry that I have missed that with Grimm file Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

File:Img 2821.jpg

Thanks Mateusz, I've labeled the image as public Domain. I hope it's better now.

@SlowRider: Can you consider using CC0? "auto release of the uploader's camera" reminds me about this court case and it would be good to have a clear situation Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:10, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

File:Taxiway lane explain VIE.png

Hi,

I got the vector sources of the screenshot a long time ago from the author of the file at VIE to help with discovering the possibility to use OSM data internally by the VIE. As there is not defined license for the source file and we didn't discuss the license details, I removed the file from the proposal page. Didn't find a way to remove the file itself.

--kelvan (talk) 08:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kelvan: - you can use Template:Delete to request that, is there any other file or page that also need to be deleted? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm not aware of any other page that needs deletion kelvan (talk) 09:54, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Resolved: File:Taxiway lane explain VIE.png Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:56, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

File:ClothingandShoesDrop.jpg

I have added Creative Commons License for this image as I took it myself. --Chronoshift (talk) 22:12, 25 March 2022 (EST)

File:Simg2750_Allee_bei_Keller.jpg

Concerning File:Simg2750_Allee_bei_Keller.jpg you will not get any feedback from user Malenki because he died in 2016 - see the top of his page. --katpatuka (talk) 10:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I added them to list of users who should not be spammed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Mateusz Konieczny/notify uploaders/Reneman

Hello, these are all not my files. I am an admin. These are files that I have restored. You can see that in the file pages. --Reneman (talk) 08:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@Reneman: Thanks for info! And sorry for a mistaken message Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


Removing a rendering example

Not sure why, but I just got a notification that you removed the "rendering in OpenSeaMap" example from this page:

Just wondering why you removed it? TheThe image is literally just text and a circle, I don't see how that could be a copyright violation. It's now confusing for anyone visiting the page, since the rendering example is empty...

Instead, maybe you could add this template? Template:PD-shape

Public domain icon

This image or logo only consists of typefaces, individual words, slogans, or simple geometric shapes. These are not eligible for copyright alone because they are not original enough, and thus the image is considered to be in the public domain.
See  Public domain or Restricted materials on Wikipedia for more information.
Please note: The public domain status of this work is only in regards to its copyright status. There may be other intellectual property restrictions protecting this image, such as trademarks or design patents if it is a logo.

This template should only be used on file pages.

Thanks --Kylenz 09:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kylenz: thanks for spotting my mistake, I fixed it now. I intended to remove photo and got confused somehow, sorry. BTW, if you have by any chance replacement for that photo - and other in this category where replacement was not found then help is welcomed. I added the template you mention to this image, and yes it is a correct one to use. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! I can help replace most of those photos, except for [1] - I've never seen one of those before. But luckily there are lots of photos on wikimedia commons. Also, I figured out why I got that notification :) --Kylenz 09:55, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
@Kylenz: let me know if you will run into some issues or something! I replaced some, but on some I am completely stuck Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Map_Icons_Collection

There isn't a corresponding discussion, but I support the deletion. I have no idea, how the process of deletion is going to be. I don't see any use in keeping it, except for future historians, but they might have more interesting stuff than this. --MeastroGlanz (talk) 14:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Map Icons/Map Icons Collection become marked as dead Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Graphic redesign of the Template:Information

Hello Mateusz Konieczny!

I've made a graphical redesign of the template for image description locally on the OSM wiki (Template:Information), notably in green color to distinguish it from the light purple of Commons (and thus to identify more easily the origin of the image).
What do you think about it?

Also, would you have a list of useful templates on image management that are on this wiki? (for example: a template to say that an image can be transferred to Commons or on the contrary a template to say that an image should not be transferred to Commons etc...)

Have a nice day ! — Koreller (talk) 08:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:57, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Stone and rock

Please revisit the comments you have added for the distinction between rock and stone. It is a general distinction also made in English (and even if it wasn’t it did not matter a lot, because it is the definitions and descriptions that count, not natural language use). Strong distinction between rocks attached to bedrock and not attached to bedrock is present in German but not in English[1]. It is one more case of OSM tag design following German terminology. you added this sentence, based on someone’s comment in github who apparently wrote about things he doesn’t know well (he is German so he isn‘t a good reference for English language). Please conduct your own research. A stone is always loose, (unless the word is used to describe a material), it is describing a grain size, bigger than a cobble and smaller than a boulder. —Dieterdreist (talk) 08:01, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dieterdreist: - it appears to not be defining difference, see say https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stone https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rock If you have a better source that describes it as a defining difference the feel free to edit that page to improve it Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
e.g. https://geologywriter.com/blog/stories-in-stone-blog/rock-or-stone-is-there-a-difference/ Robert Thorson writes “Rock is raw material in situ. Stone usually connotes either human handling or human use, although it can also be used to describe naturally produced fragments of rock larger than a cobble.” I just searched the web for „rock or stone“. —-Dieterdreist (talk) 19:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
OK, so there is a difference in at least some specialist terminology which does not exist in a common language. This - as far as I know - is distinct from German where distinction is also in a common language. Feel free to add note that specialist English geology terminology has such distinction. Note that distinction is quite obscure, as indicated by your own link and in typical usage this terms are used interchangeably @Dieterdreist: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Page may be still improved, obviously - but it seems to me that my edits were not wrong Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:12, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

File source: Surface-Metal.jpg

You're asking this 12 years after the file was uploaded? Is there a new initiative to get all sources clarified?

Yes, it's my own photo, taken at Punchestown Racecourse in Kildare, Ireland, when the Oxegen festival was being set up. I'll update what I can in the file info. Hackery (talk) 22:35, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Designing_policy_for_handling_files_without_clear_license (BTW, feedback there would be welcome) - in general problem was ignored and it turns out that some people were really confused or just ignoring copyright. Fortunately many people are still around and can help or files are fixable, or are clear unfixable copyright violations Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
This refers to File:Surface-Metal.jpg Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: noted on file page, remove {{Unknown}}, I or someone elsse will ask again about license if it will not be added Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Have updated description - Hackery (talk) 11:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Barrier1

User:GeoJ Yes I am the author of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Barrier1.jpg by the way the picture shows https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1617410675

Thanks, I improved its file page! Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

User:GeoJ But I have to admit that I haven't visited this barrier for some years, so I don't know if the barrier is still the one shown on the picture (the picture is now 14 years old).

added also " as of 2008"

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Netwerken-nl.png

hi, i answered on my talk-page... --GercoKees (talk) 07:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Nottingham-city-2009.png

Seeing as this image was uploaded over 13 years ago I can't be 100% certain of where it came from - based on the comments I assume it was a screenshot of the Tile@Home rendering engine (was that a forerunner of Mapnik?) but I can't be certain.

File:Nottingham-city-2009.png Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

File:HOT_Beginner_4.png

Hi Mateusz - youn left a message about a particular licence on an image from 2014 - (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:HOT_Beginner_4.png) - I can't remember now, but I must have thought it was the right thing to do at the time. The image was probably one I was using when I was trying to give feedback to another mapper - before the HOT Tasking Manager allowed the leaving of feedback. The system I was using seemed to work extremely well as far as the mappers was concerned, but was extremely labour intensive for me, and hence not particularly practical. I have very little to do with HOT or LearnOSM now - feel a little burnt out with the whole thing, and now enjoy mapping mainly after a survey. I still keep my server updating the translations from Transifex. Regards Nick (Tallguy)

@Tallguy: - are you expecting this old images still to be useful for some purpose? Or is it fine to delete them? Because it would be necessary to research what is their legal situation and fix copyright tagging to keep them (this appears only now, as for a long time copyright issues concerning images were almost completely ignored at OSM Wiki) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
@Mateusz Konieczny: - deletion is fine - I'm away from home with limited internet access and time at the moment, but will do what I can to delete them. - Update - is it actually possible to delete it? - I've just tried and haven't worked out how. Is a licence change the correct course of action?
Resolved: I fixed license for that file @Tallguy:

Side effect of changing all CC-BY templates

As a side effect of changes like https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:CC-BY-2.0&diff=0&oldid=2344973, all of those templates now appear in Category:Attribution not provided in CC license template which requires attribution. Additionally, there are now two separate places in the template that do categorisation. Those were the reasons why I "duplicated" the attribution switch structure. --Tigerfell This user is member of the wiki team of OSM (Let's talk) 14:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Should be now fixed. Duplication will happen either way, but I think it is better to do two different categorization types in different places that to duplicate complex and unreadable control structures. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Bremen protective bicycle lane.jpg

Hello Mateusz Konieczny,

I have closed the deletion request at [2] and deleted the file. Regards --Rosenzweig (talk) 22:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Captchas for a talk page message with a link to Wikimedia Commons? Really? --Rosenzweig (talk) 22:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
@Rosenzweig: - thanks! I think I fixed used ones. And captcha probably applies to all links posted by new accounts Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Invalid revert

Hello Mateusz,

please note that the recent revert you did at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:fitness_station&diff=next&oldid=2345652 caused that the picture at ski swing is no more valid. Leg stretching means legs are moving away from each other and back while ski swing = legs are moving together (as during a giant slalom).

@Jose1711: - right, I got confused by file description page pretending to be a redirect. Thanks for spotting, should be now fixed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:08, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Doppelt hält besser? ;-)

Special:Diff/2314646/next Gruß --Reneman (talk) 15:31, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Reneman: - note that it is NOT a duplicate, this linked tags are different - one with spaces, one with underscores Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
yes the difference in the space I have seen. and what is the point? Why is the infobox needed twice? Shouldn't this difference be pointed out in ONE box? --Reneman (talk) 16:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Reneman: (1) it is worth mentioning both as if only one would be mentioned then it could be retagged while other would be still present (2) it is bot edit and bot has no special support for this case (if you are interested you can write pull request that would improve handling in such case ) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
yes it may be worth placing both links. But why in TWO infoboxes? Both links can be placed one after the other in ONE box (avoid redundancies). I have changed the file page as an example for illustration (Proposal Special:Diff/2363763/next). --Reneman (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
"But why in TWO infoboxes" it is a bot edit and bot has no special support for this case (if you are interested you can write pull request that would improve handling in such case ). It is not an edit that I have made, it is edit made by fully automated program following very simple instructions. @Reneman: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Re: Missing file information (barrierswinggate.jpg)

Hello Mateusz,

Thank you for reaching out. My apologies. I was just testing the Wiki upload image feature since my colleagues who just recently joined the OSM Wiki are unable to upload a picture. Thus I tried to see if I got the same issue or not. How can I delete the image?

Best, Yantisa

@Yantisa: - you can use {{Delete}}. I did it for you in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Barrierswinggate.jpg&diff=2382114&oldid=2381205 Note that waiting time for deletion is about two months - but do not worry about it Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


Doppelt hält besser? ;-)

Special:Diff/2314646/next Gruß --Reneman (talk) 15:31, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Reneman: - note that it is NOT a duplicate, this linked tags are different - one with spaces, one with underscores Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
yes the difference in the space I have seen. and what is the point? Why is the infobox needed twice? Shouldn't this difference be pointed out in ONE box? --Reneman (talk) 16:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Reneman: (1) it is worth mentioning both as if only one would be mentioned then it could be retagged while other would be still present (2) it is bot edit and bot has no special support for this case (if you are interested you can write pull request that would improve handling in such case ) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
yes it may be worth placing both links. But why in TWO infoboxes? Both links can be placed one after the other in ONE box (avoid redundancies). I have changed the file page as an example for illustration (Proposal Special:Diff/2363763/next). --Reneman (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
"But why in TWO infoboxes" it is a bot edit and bot has no special support for this case (if you are interested you can write pull request that would improve handling in such case ). It is not an edit that I have made, it is edit made by fully automated program following very simple instructions. @Reneman: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

access=private on road only ?

I don't see why you removed the documentation about the (low but) usage of access=private of other stuffs than road, for ex a parking https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/357669359 a gate https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10007918014 a entrance https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6845731522 Marc marc (talk) 23:03, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

It would be probably better to comment on talk page of article - I have no idea what edit you refer to. Can you link it? If you mean https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:access%3Dprivate&diff=prev&oldid=2389350 then it was at least intended to do exact opposite thing Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: I responded, no reply back, no link to diff Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:04, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

A strange link to the Ca: category

Many Catalan pages have an automatically generated invalid link to the Ca: category in the footer. Can I ask for a possible correction or forwarding of this information to the appropriate places? I couldn't find which template is causing this. --Lenochod (talk) 08:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Lenochod: - I would ask on Talk:Wiki It looks like it is added by infobox. Maybe it is caused by missing translations in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:DescriptionCategoriesLang&action=edit ? 08:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
I added the translation in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:DescriptionCategoriesLang&action=edit and now it doesn't appear anymore. --Lenochod (talk) 12:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Re: Missing file information (barrierswinggate.jpg)

Hello Mateusz,

Thank you for reaching out. My apologies. I was just testing the Wiki upload image feature since my colleagues who just recently joined the OSM Wiki are unable to upload a picture. Thus I tried to see if I got the same issue or not. How can I delete the image?

Best, Yantisa

@Yantisa: - you can use {{Delete}}. I did it for you in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Barrierswinggate.jpg&diff=2382114&oldid=2381205 Note that waiting time for deletion is about two months - but do not worry about it Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Re: Missing file information (dónal image uploads)

Hi Mateusz! I've added license information to the images I was notified about (see below) and removed the "Unknown" template. Do I need to do anything additional?

@Dónal: everything looks fine! Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

note to self: consider export to Commons Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Uploaded image directly from editing

Hi Mateusz, I uploaded an image directly from the article I am writing, but it did not asked me about the license. How can I correct this? I know you are working on this.

This is the image: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Notathon-Ecuador-Cayambe.svg

@Angoca: - that is annoying one. For start, have you made this logo or reused existing file? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I used a OSM background, but the rest I did from scratch. AngocA (talk) 02:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
@Angoca:
Oh, not so bad. Then you need
{{ODbL OpenStreetMap}} and {{CC0-self}} + "I used a OSM background, but the rest I did from scratch" clarification
or {{ODbL OpenStreetMap}} and {{CC-BY-SA-4.0|Angoca}} + "I used a OSM background, but the rest I did from scratch" clarification
use CC0 if you want people to be able to use/modify it freely without worrying about complications such as to where one should put credit on poster or whether CC license materials are OK to post on Facebook and so on
use CC-BY-SA-4.0 if you want to demand that people credit you and you are willing to take legal action to enforce it. Personally for my photos and work like this I use CC0 as unlike for OSM editing and my programming projects I am not planning to take legal action, so making it easy for everyone seem better
Other licences are also possible, but for nearly all uses this two will be preferable for media
Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Why not also edit Wikidata original site and remove P1282

For example:

You remove "Q180958" in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Zh-hans:Key:faculty&diff=next&oldid=2241956

But when I visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q180958, it still have this property.

(I haven't watch so ping me when reply)

--快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 21:02, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@快乐的老鼠宝宝: - several reasons:
  • note that this data is still in OSM Data Items - it was only removed from OSM Wiki
  • this edit was made to remove inactive parameter from OSM wiki pages, data was migrated to data items and in this case it is still in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q8366 OSM data item
Thank you for explaination on this! I mistakenly thought they were deprecated and not on OSMWiki. I will consider going to Wikidata and requesting to change https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1282#P1630 to the format you given https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q$1 (or just modify P1282's value as "Item:Q8366")(I also have problem in automatical edit in Wikidata itself so this also just a plan)--快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 08:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
  • my bot edit was approved on OSM Wiki, I have not attempted to approve it for Wikidata
  • I do not care so much about Wikidata quality
  • If I would spend time on improving Wikidata I would spend time on their critical ontology issues that are actually causing problems
  • This specific link is not so wrong
  • Wikidata/Data item editing requires dealing with obnoxious API that my code is not supporting

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 02:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Resolved: (please write to me if this is not solved, I think I answered it) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Your edit in historic=*

You added the sentence "Note that damaged remains and ruins are existing! Comparison of life cycle concepts offers one of ways to mark ruins and remains." to the top of historic=*. I don't think the sentence is wrong, but the same could be said about any other historic object. So I don't understand why this particular sentence should be on top of the paragraph. Can you explain?

Also, I'm not sure if you're implying that ruins should not be tagged as historical.

--Martianfreeloader (talk) 13:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

"could be said about any other historic object. So I don't understand why this particular sentence should be on top of the paragraph" I mentioned this exactly because it applies to historical objects. I added this as I added mention that nonexisting features are mapped only temporarily
"Also, I'm not sure if you're implying that ruins should not be tagged as historical." that was not my intention

Feel free to tweak it or even revert completely (with explanation in edit). @Martianfreeloader: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

I feel like the first and (now) third sentence already fully cover this. The first sentence says features that still exist, while the third sentence says what to do if it doesn't exist anymore. Also, Comparison_of_life_cycle_concepts is now linked twice in consecutive sentences. So if you're ok, I'd just revert it. --Martianfreeloader (talk) 13:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
In general, free to revert my edits without asking: just explain in revert why you are doing this Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Ah, after reading again, I think I got your idea. If I'm right, you wanted to emphasize that features do not need to be intact, only existing. I've reflected this in the article now. Thanks for pointing this out! --Martianfreeloader (talk) 13:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
@Martianfreeloader: exactly! Thanks for better phrasing that Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Your edit to foot=no was incorrect

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Your edit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:foot%3Dno&diff=next&oldid=2122127 changed the page from redirecting to the access page (which says "Access values describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth; e.g., signage or legal ruling and not introduce guesswork. It does not describe common or typical use, even if signage is generally ignored. ") to saying "Access on foot or for pedestrians prohibited or impossible". It does mean prohibited; it does NOT mean impossible. SomeoneElse (talk) 23:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@SomeoneElse: "it does NOT mean impossible" - I agree, but if access by pedestrians is utterly impossible and access by vehicles is possible then I would also use foot=no even if legal situation is unclear Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Though I see that you edited the page Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Street vendors‎

Not to beat a dead horse now that the amenity=street_vendor proposal is DOA, but you should really do a counter proposal for street_vendor=* so no one ever tries to revive tagging street vendors with an amenity tag. Your tag is clearly the better of the two options anyway. So please revive the proposal and put it up for a vote. I'm begging you, for the love of god, don't make us have to deal with that nonsense again. Do a proposal for street_vendor=* and put it to a vote. Pretty, pretty, please, do it.... --Adamant1 (talk) 11:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Adamant1: - well, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/street_vendor%3Dyes was intended as RFC-only proposal to avoid risk of getting "only" 79% support and getting "rejected" status. I hope that it will get additional confirmation from community by clear rejection of deprecation attempt Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:04, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
That makes sense. I guess it's a risk either way. It's not like having a tag approved does that much for it anyway, but getting one rejected can be pretty detrimental depending. That's one of the reasons I never took rental=* anywhere. The risk to benefit ratio of taking it to vote just didn't seem worth it. Especially since some of the alternatives have more usage. I feel like street_vendor=* is low enough on the food chain so to speak that it would probably be approved though. More so now that the alternatives clearly aren't viable. It's your call though. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

building:name=* has no valid reason for use

What about in cases where the name of a business is different from the name of the building that it is in? --Adamant1 (talk) 07:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

@Adamant1: Merging business and building is in general violation of One feature, one OSM element. Especially if both are named and so on. In such case proper fix is to represent business as a node/area in a building, rather than starting using weird prefixes. If building has no name or other conflicting attributes such merge is not very problematic (though for example iD has severe problems with it), but building:name=* is ridiculous workaround used instead of a proper soution Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I guess that makes sense. I'm pretty sure I've used the tag myself a few times. So Thanks for the answer. I'll have to just do what you suggest the next time. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Resolved: (as far as this discussion goes, tag itself has no reason to exist) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:25, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Ping

Hey. I pinged on Talk:Proposal process/Time allowed to vote on proposals because I wanted your opinion about something, but I don't think it went through. So I thought I'd make you aware of it this way. Thanks. Sorry if this is redundant. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

entrance=exit is a troll tag

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

it is, because entrance=* is for entrances, and entrance=exit is not an entrance. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:exit&diff=next&oldid=2480848 —-Dieterdreist (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Dieterdreist: - yes, sorry! I then reverted myself Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you :) —Dieterdreist (talk) 08:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

"aeroway=osmism"

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Dear, Your comment made me smile, and I was quick to react to it. Too quick, in fact: I replied like I would and should have done in the "comments" section, not in the article body. But frankly, wouldn't it be best of all to move the whole paragraph to the talk page? At any rate, please do feel free to move or remove my comment as seems best to you - myself am quite unsure. Thanks and kind regards, Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jan olieslagers: In general I think it is worth documenting it, it is useful especially for people who are not native speakers. Though it is a Wiki so feel free to make edits. Maybe we will consult with other people if we will fundamentally disagree Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Broad smile! I do not think we will disagree, at the contrary I am happy to leave the matter in your hands. Kindly! Jan olieslagers (talk) 19:05, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Fixing later can be very difficult

Dear Mateusz Konieczny

While I was reading the above section of Import/Past Problems, I noticed a missing link here where you mention like in this example. I was interested to findout what is in that example.

Thank you

Ngumenawesamson (talk) 08:57, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

@Ngumenawesamson: - note that it was there before I made any edits https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Import/Past_Problems&oldid=1552135 (maybe that it is not about specific import but class of errors?) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

shop=kitchenware

Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

At

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Ashop%3Dkitchenware&type=revision&diff=2506654&oldid=2503616

You've suggested "shop=kitchen" as a suggested alternative to "shop=kitchenware", which makes no sense. Shops that sell fitted kitchens rarely sell pots and pans / knives and forks. SomeoneElse (talk) 23:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

@SomeoneElse: - if only kitchenware is sold there then it makes no sense whatsoever to use tag for kitchen furniture. But I listed it there not intending it as synonymous one but as related. Which I expect to be useful mostly for people who are not native speakers ("kitchenware" may be initially interpreted by them to include also kitchen furniture). As usual feel free to amend/revert if you see an improvement Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Done, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dkitchenware&oldid=2507145 SomeoneElse (talk) 22:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC) .

Bus lane

Sorry for the late response about the question you left at my talk page about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:lanes:psv&curid=71876&diff=2329789&oldid=2271082 . It seems your edit is correct https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:lanes:psv&diff=next&oldid=2329789 . Thank you. Lalolan (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia photos

Thank you for keeping an eye on on copyright violations. I can assure you that all photos I have posted on Wikimedia have been taken by me personally. T99 (talk) 09:00, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@T99: thanks for info, and great that files are not problematic! Specifying license like at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Bike_path_dip_swale.jpg&curid=188024&diff=2337294&oldid=2253049 for files listed in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mateusz_Konieczny/notify_uploaders/T99 would be even more ideal, if possible (only few files are affected, so I guess that it should be doable) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:12, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Hey Mateusz, thank you for keeping an eye on images copyrights. Maybe the text you add in user spaces when asking for image license clarification could be made a lot shorter: a small text and the useful {} to be added on the image page, along with a link to the long version. Yvecai (talk) 05:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Yvecai: Which part you would recommend to move to extras? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: no reply Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 20:27, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

building onNode

[3] Dlaczego przywróciłeś informację, że akademik nie może być mapowany jako węzeł? Sposób mapowania nie powinien się różnić między krajami i powinien być taki sam dla każdej wersji językowej. Czy w Polsce są ustalone inne zasady? maro21 20:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Poprawiłem, dzięki Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 04:59, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Resolved: jeszcze raz dzięki Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 10:26, 7 September 2023 (UTC)