Values for electronic vehicles like segway?
Do we already have values for shops selling electronic vehicles like segway, e-scooters, electronic skateboards etc _but not_ e-bikes or e-motorcycles, or all of them? One shop as example. I did not find anything "official", i.e. in the wiki, but only a hand full of different values in taginfo - which makes searching & rendering quite difficult. As the amount of such shops is increasing quicker and quicker, IMHO we shall define a basic mapping scheme quickly to avoid a big clean-up / consolidation task requiring to find many different shop-values that are used in the wild.
As we have a value "vehicles" I suggest either
- to use shop=vehicles because many shops selling/renting EVs do also sell/rent other kinds of vehicles (normal bikes or motorcycles), and add a wiki page for vehicletype:type where we define values like e-scooter etc (so we do not end up with all typing variants). This is not used so far.
- a shop value "EV" or "electric vehicles" but not "BEV" / "Battery Electric Vehicles" because then other types of energy source besides battery (solar panels, fuel cells etc) would not be covered. This value could be used in conjunction with other shop values, e.g. electronics, motorcycle or bicycle, if a shop sells also those things. To clarify which kind of EVs are sold, I suggest EV:type just like for motorcycle:type. It's list of values could grow over time, but finding shops that sell/repair/rent/... some kind of EV would be easy due to common shop=EV.
Feature Page Shops
Should shops that have made it to the Map Features page not be included in the Country Specific Lists? Should the values table on the Features page be copied to the shop page like it is for highways? --Kweejee 03:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
For a shop selling telephone and internet access, all the rage at the moment. Longbow4u 22:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- In Belgium we call them "telecom" shops. --Skratz 14:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
If shop can be attached on , than the renderer does wrong by writing the name on the edge see here --Shmias 15:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
As, unfortunately, mapnik overlays the house number with the shop icon when both are defined on a way (area), one may prefer to define the shop and name key only on the lower left node of the area (example house 78). --A Pirard 13:12, 13 June 2012 (BST)
Repair, Rental, Clothes... Semantic improvements
I think there are secondary tags that should be interesting to add to some shops
- repair=yes/no/only/... for shop=car, shop=shoes, shop=hifi...
- rental=yes/no/only/... for shop=car, shop=bicycle, shop=outdoor equipment...
In the same way the tag clothes=men/women/children/fashion...
By this way the number of tags would not explode too much, and applications could send a request to the API without knowing all vocabulary (fashion...) and all the languages (kindergarten, biergarten, and why not bouchon lyonnais and café parisien). We always have to take care to the semantic.
Other examples :
- shop=shoes + shoes:repair=only
- shop=sports + sports=ski + ski:repair=yes + ski:rental=yes
- shop=outdoor + outdoor:mountain:rental=yes + outdoor:mountain:maps=yes + outdoor:mountain:insurance=yes
FrViPofm 19:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
how to tag wholesale supermarkets?
How do you tag a wholesale supermarket which is only open for retailers? --ALE! 13:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- shop=wholesale could be a solution. --ALE! 13:01, 19 July 2011 (BST)
- What about the alternative "shop=supermarket" + "cost=wholesale" ... my imperfect understanding is that the primary distinction between wholesale and retail is cost, as well as access in some cases. Given the second notion, could in addition or instead use "access=membership" or "access=restricted", maybe. --Ceyockey 02:01, 20 July 2011 (BST)
I´d like to see a delicatessen shop added to the list. Both shop=deli and shop=delicatessen are used equally often or seldom. Any opinion on that? --Gkai 18:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Value suggestion: home_care
suggested ... shop=home_care ... to cover businesses which provide home health care = home care = domiciliary care = home nursing. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/64291832 for example just added (Delaware, United States). --Ceyockey 19:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
A shop that focuses on small items, like cutlery, crockery, decorative items. If they also have a significant selection of shop=furniture and shop=electronics, it should be specified separately with a semicolon.
- Should probably be shop=housewares, but that might be a US convention? --Ceyockey 01:04, 28 September 2010 (BST)
- I'm, not english native speaker, but I was tought it is houseware --Envite 14:24, 28 September 2010 (BST)
There are shops specialized in providing wedding services: catering, decoration, photographer/videocameraman, illumination, gifts, flowers...
--Envite 13:41, 24 September 2010 (BST)
--Updated 22:18, 27 September 2010 (BST)
- Sounds like a reasonable value addition. --Ceyockey 01:02, 28 September 2010 (BST)
- This proposal is retired in favor of one in the office=* section. Shops are were you pay and get something material instead. Offices, were you pay for services, like lawyers, getting nothing material. Please look at Talk:Key:office as discussed in the mailing list. It is possible (still discussed) that a shop=bride_dresses will get into. --Envite 14:29, 28 September 2010 (BST)
I need to tag a shop specialized in swimming pools, equipment to fix, build and upgrade them, chlorine and other products for treating them, and furniture to use in and on the side of the pools. I have problems fitting it into any of the existing categories.... --Skippern 14:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Values carpet and flooring
Suggestion for best-practice and definition: If a shop's only products are carpets, then use shop=carpet; if a shop's products include many types of flooring products, including (or not) carpets, then use shop=flooring. As of July 2011, according to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=shop , "carpet" has 295 uses and "flooring" 34. --Ceyockey 19:52, 16 July 2011 (BST)
I've used one instance of the following:
- shop:amenity=self-checkout (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/71493407)
to indicate that a shop (a supermarket in this case) has self-checkout facilities (where a shopper can complete the purchase of items without interacting with shop staff).
Do you think that this is a useful piece of information for inclusion in a shop context? In my area of the United States, self-checkout is one distinguishing factor between do-it-yourself shopping venues Home Depot and Lowes'. --Ceyockey 18:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I would avoid tag constructions such as shop:amenity=self-checkout. Imagine there is another "shop amenity" in the future, e.g. a children's corner. Following your approach, one would tag it shop:amenity=childrens_corner. But then how do you tag a shop with children's corner and self-checkout? shop:amenity=self-checkout;childrens_corner? Semi-colon value separator describes this problem. You can avoid it by doing it like this: self_checkout=yes. --Head 16:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
shops and housenumbers
The following is a text fragment I cut from the definition page and stored here for documentation purposes -- Dieterdreist 17:03, 13 June 2012 (BST)
- As, unfortunately, mapnik overlays the house number with the shop icon when both are defined on a way (area), one may prefer to define the shop and name key only on the lower left node of the area (example house 78).
- The mapping should take place independently from current mapnik rendering behaviour. The suboptimal treatment of housenumbers together with other features like gates, shops and similar will most probably change in the near future. The above suggestion leads IMHO to topology errors: a node part of the area is topologically defining an object on this way (in the case of a building outline I am tempted to interpret this as most likely an object attached on the outside wall, e.g. a vending machine). If a shop is inside a building, please put it inside the building (i.e. not on the outline). --Dieterdreist 17:08, 13 June 2012 (BST)
How about shop=dairy for smalls shop that sell mostly dairy products such as milk and cheese? I think that shop=convenience is closest, but a bit of an overstatement when it comes to the range of products available. --OSMfan (talk) 15:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- As of today, there are 58 instances of this in taginfo, though not a single one of those instances is in the United States. There are also a few outliers like "cheese_dairy", "Dairy", "dairy_products", "cheese dairy", "butcher; dairy" and "dairy produce". There are a lot more "cheese" instances (247) and additional outliers like "Cheese", "deli; cheese", "cheese;coffee;tea"; "seafood;cheese" and "cheese, milk products, fish". --Ceyockey (talk) 21:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Value suggestion: health_supplies or medical_supplies
A shop where you can by "personal medical equipment" stuff like: Exercise balls, Bandages, Crutches, Arch support, Orthotics, Sphygmomanometers, Glucometer, ...
In the United States you would typically refer to this assortment as 'medical supplies'. There are stores which are dedicated to this, which could be tagged with shop=medical_supply (216 uses); such shops tend not to include a pharmacy. Often a store having an internal pharmacy typically stocks a subset of materials (e.g. Walgreens, Walmart, larger supermarkets); in this case, you could use medical_supply=yes, though this tag is not in use at present. --Ceyockey (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
mobile store / shop-van / van-shop
Does some tag, showing, that a shop is a mobile store (shop-van / van-shop, not to be confused with shops that sell mobile phones and accessories), exist? It is a real situation, when there is some place, designated for mobile store. Sometimes a car arrives a few days a week and works only a few hours (so a place, designated for store usually is empty), sometimes, a car is standing at its place during a day, departures for a night and comes back next morning, sometimes, a car is standing almost all time (so such mobile store looks like building because of its fixed location). I think, that we should have 3 next tags: 1) tag, showing, that a shop is a mobile store (perhaps, mobile_store=yes, shop-van=yes, van-shop=yes?); 2) tag, showing working hours of a store (we've already have such tag - opening_hours=*); 3) tag, showing the period, when a car is usually located on its place (perhaps, arrangement=...?). Dinamik (talk) 06:07, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
There should be someway to tag shops that sell games (ex: EB Games, Gamestop). As of now, shop=video_games and shop=games are in use, and I think both should be documented; shop=video_games for EB Games, Gamestop, and shop=games for board game stores like 401 Games, The Hairy Tarantula. -Cdrini (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements
Discussion on Tagging email list in the August 2013 archive; initial posting entitled "shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements?" → http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014555.html --Ceyockey (talk) 23:08, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
TOC location and alignment
The alignment of the TOC in  makes the page unreadable, as the normal text is placed at a small area left to the TOC.
I've simplified it into a standard TOC in this change .
shop=mail vs shop=shipping vs amenity=post_office (united states)
I am thinking that locations for FedEx, UPS and their ilk could be designated using "shop=mail", but I'm wondering what others have used. There are right now only 5 instances of use for shop=mail. Thanks for your input. --Ceyockey (talk) 12:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Most likely amenity=post_office + operator=UPS or something like that, but you should ask your local community to be sure. --Jgpacker (talk) 13:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Due to the lack of other options, I have used exactly that (amenity=post_office + name=DHL + operator=DHL) around here. But I'd welcome other suggestions. Jotam (talk) 22:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Tagging these as amenity=post_office seems a little off since they're private businesses, not part of the public postal system. I understand that that line is blurred in some countries but in the USA there's a clear distinction.
- It's even more awkward to tag independent shipping shops as amenity=post_office since they don't really have an operator and offer shipping by a variety of companies: DHL, FedEx, UPS, etc.
- I'm going to recommend shop=shipping, which is about 25 times more common than shop=mail. I'd like to be able to run a query to count the use of amenity=post_office for these private mail shops, but there's no effective way to write such a query (the operator tag is not employed in a consistent fashion) which again leads me to believe that amenity=post_office is the wrong tag here, if there's a very clear real-world distinction that can't be made clear in the tagging. Jmapb (talk) 16:37, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to choose one. They seem to be different things. --Jgpacker (talk) 18:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- PS: We don't need to add all shop=* tags in this list. All documented shop=* tags are already listed at Category:Tag descriptions for key "shop". But feel free to add the ones you find useful. --Jgpacker (talk) 18:26, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Coffee & tea
shop=furnace vs. British English
Using the word "furnace" to refer to any kind of domestic heating unit is not correct in British English. That word is used to refer to industrial furnaces including waste disposal, power generation and perhaps even crematoria. A domestic unit for heating your house is termed a "boiler". A more universal term may be HVAC - which covers heating, ventilation and air conditioning. The use of "sidewalk" (a US term) is accepted because it is frequently understood and doesn't cause any confusion in the UK. But the word "furnace" is widely understood in the UK to mean something different to its US usage, so it should be avoided in tagging. --Csmale (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Shop that handles pre-orders only
Trying to accurately map a groceries shop that handles online orders and then delivers online orders only through a physical branch. Is there any special tag and value for this? (link to said shop is here)
I am adding some stores that sell peanuts, almonds, nuts, dried fruits and stuff. I don't know what's the best tag for them. In the discussion of shop=spices Talk:Tag:shop=spices, there is a recommendation to use shop=nuts. Looking into taginfo, I see there are only 24 shops tagged as nuts, 8 as nut and a few others tagged nut_something. I could use shop=greengrocer. What's the recommended tag for them? --Cserpell (talk) 03:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have the same question, for now I am putting shop=nuts as well, because there is no appropriate classification that I can find. Not sure what the process is for adding a new classification to this page. —Ynhockey (talk) 23:54, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Namespaces for shops
- Shops which sell several products currently need a second "shop=" node / way
- Services they offer can't be easily differentiated (in a standardised way)
- Tags like second_hand=yes or repair=yes may be confusing as you don't know which product is meant
(and if the whole shop is second hand or they just also offer it beside)
Instead of re-inventing each shop tagging for a more detailed specification,
there should be a namespace scheme for shops in general (as it otherwise leads to a mess of tags and endless discussions).
As an example, check shop=bicycle and shop=motorcycle and leave your comment here.
I'd like to collect some opinions before starting a proposal, especially for different kind of shops
(while shop=computer is comparable to the above mentioned, other shops may have other needs). rtfm Rtfm (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
We need a category for rock shops. They sell rocks for collectors, they are common in tourist areas in United Stated. They usually also sell fossils and some will also sell jewelry. Tags variations currently in use are: shop=gems, shop=rock, shop=rocks (may be others). --HubMiner (talk) 05:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Company identification numbers
In many countries each company has a Company identification number. less ambiguous than its name too. This would be a valuable addition to the database for future direct searches. Jidanni (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
How to tag key-cutter-cum-shoe-repair businesses à la Mister Minit?
How do I tag small businesses which offer key duplication, shoe repairs and possibly other small repairs and services? They are usually booths in department stores or shopping malls; a major franchise of that kind would be https://misterminit.co. shop=locksmith is too broad (they usually don’t offer a wide range of lock-related items and services), craft=key_cutter is too narrow (they do more than just duplicate keys). craft=shoemaker is both too wide (they repair shoes but don’t make any, and they do other unrelated things as well). Couldn’t find anything under the related shop=* and craft=* items. If there is no tag for this, we should create one. If there is, it should be added to the See also sections of the respective tags. --Stanton (talk) 23:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- You are allowed to tag an object with both craft=* and shop=*. This is an interesting issue (aside from craft=* vs shop=*), because there's shop=car_repair specifically, while all other values could include repair-only "shops" for historic reasons. Since it is in use, you can use craft=key_cutter with shop=shoe_repair for the time being. But I don't like how there could be many shop=*_repair values possible. This leads to conflicting individual values (multi-value isn't nice here) for shops offering wide variety of repair services you mentioned. -- Kovposch (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Tagging shop that is bakery and butcher shop at once
How should I tag such a shop? They are specialized in selling bread and various meat goods, but almost nothing else, so it's not really a convenience store like I've tagged it for now. And yep, it is a single shop, not two different ones. V1993 (talk) 14:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)